China builds longest bridge
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shalmaneser said:
tinman0 said:
Because people are stupid and uneducated. The same people talk happily about the "US Empire" and how it "invades" other countries, yet quite happily turn a blind eye to the fate of Tibet and laud China for being strong.
The same people will quite happily mock the US for the death penalty but seem to forgive China's expedited death penalty system with it's mobile death vans.
What a load of utter bThe same people will quite happily mock the US for the death penalty but seem to forgive China's expedited death penalty system with it's mobile death vans.
ks.ks about it. you, on the other hand.....Jimbeaux said:
shalmaneser said:
tinman0 said:
Because people are stupid and uneducated. The same people talk happily about the "US Empire" and how it "invades" other countries, yet quite happily turn a blind eye to the fate of Tibet and laud China for being strong.
The same people will quite happily mock the US for the death penalty but seem to forgive China's expedited death penalty system with it's mobile death vans.
What a load of utter bThe same people will quite happily mock the US for the death penalty but seem to forgive China's expedited death penalty system with it's mobile death vans.
ks.ks about it. you, on the other hand.....ks. Where have you seen people supporting China's expedited death penalty system with it mobile death vans?Shay HTFC said:
Jimbeaux said:
shalmaneser said:
tinman0 said:
Because people are stupid and uneducated. The same people talk happily about the "US Empire" and how it "invades" other countries, yet quite happily turn a blind eye to the fate of Tibet and laud China for being strong.
The same people will quite happily mock the US for the death penalty but seem to forgive China's expedited death penalty system with it's mobile death vans.
What a load of utter bThe same people will quite happily mock the US for the death penalty but seem to forgive China's expedited death penalty system with it's mobile death vans.
ks.ks about it. you, on the other hand.....ks. Where have you seen people supporting China's expedited death penalty system with it mobile death vans?Jimbeaux said:
Tinman's point is that the West is criticised by its own for things that pale to what China's atrocities are yet all we hear are compliments for China regarding other things done well. What say you?
How many people died in Genocides in Europe in the last century? We're all s at the end of the day, just the chinese build big fk off bridges.Bing o said:
Jimbeaux said:
Tinman's point is that the West is criticised by its own for things that pale to what China's atrocities are yet all we hear are compliments for China regarding other things done well. What say you?
How many people died in Genocides in Europe in the last century? We're all s at the end of the day, just the chinese build big fk off bridges.
Jimbeaux said:
No, he is spot on, no bks about it. you, on the other hand.....
Well, maybe in the US, but over here every time the Chinese PM comes over there are loud and vocal protests. Similarly the Olympic torch relay was basically one long Anti China/Pro Tibet protest.ks about it. you, on the other hand.....Get your facts straight - I'm no bleeding heart liberal but China's human rights record is appalling and they are quite rightly chastised over it.
shalmaneser said:
Jimbeaux said:
No, he is spot on, no bks about it. you, on the other hand.....
Well, maybe in the US, but over here every time the Chinese PM comes over there are loud and vocal protests. Similarly the Olympic torch relay was basically one long Anti China/Pro Tibet protest.ks about it. you, on the other hand.....Get your facts straight - I'm no bleeding heart liberal but China's human rights record is appalling and they are quite rightly chastised over it.
Bing o said:
Jimbeaux said:
Brilliant answer.
Well, I was trying to avoid the US atrocities committed in the name of US beliefs on the Koreans, Laotians, Cambodians and Vietnamese amongst others. But you're right and everyone else is wrong Jim. shalmaneser said:
Bing o said:
Well, I was trying to avoid the US atrocities committed in the name of US beliefs on the Koreans, Laotians, Cambodians and Vietnamese amongst others. But you're right and everyone else is wrong Jim.
Don't forget the huge mess they left in South America.Go USA!
Taken from CNN blog: http://business.blogs.cnn.com/2011/07/04/happy-dep...
Happy Dependence Day, America! Love, China.
(CNN) – Oh say can you see…the end of American independence?
This Fourth of July, the United States celebrates its 235th year of freedom from British rule. That’s emancipated us from yeasty marmite, pesky ‘u’s in our ‘neighbors’ and from having to ask God to “save the Queen”.
Phew. Yes, today we celebrate our independence from Britain.
But we do that by underlining our growing dependence on another country – China. And with our most patriotic of Americana for the day – fireworks and flags.
Nearly 97% of U.S. money for firework imports popped up in China last year, according to U.S. trade statistics. The hard numbers: we paid nearly $200 million for all of our skyrockets, Roman candles, sparklers and other pyrotechnics. More than $190 million of that went to the Middle Kingdom.
As for the Stars and Stripes, about 88% of our money for American flag imports billowed over to China in 2010. U.S. foreign trade statistics show that the U.S. imported $3.2 million worth of flags, and $2.8 million of that went to our top trade partner.
But fireworks and flags, as dazzling or inspiring they may be, are just small examples of a trend that we know has been happening: growing American reliance on Chinese imports and a widening trade gap.
The U.S. China-Business Council’s website highlights America’s burgeoning trade imbalance over the last decade. In 2001, the U.S. ran up a deficit with China of $83 billion. By 2010 however, that number had more than tripled to $273 billion – the largest trade imbalance the U.S. has ever had with a single country.
So as the U.S. suffers from a trade deficit, how does China enjoy its trade excess?
Well, a good deal of that money is found in its domestic infrastructure projects. As an old China hand, I can tell you that around the country China is building out everything from its national road network and subway systems, to its airports, trains and bridges.
According to Caixin, China currently has about 175 airports across the country. By 2013, it aims to push that number up to 230. That’s like building a brand-new airport in each U.S. state in the next year and a half.
China spent $34 billion on its new high-speed rail line linking Beijing and Shanghai. It just opened on June 30 shunting passengers 1,318 kilometers in just under five hours.
And more than $1.5 billion was floated to build the world’s longest bridge in Qingdao, China. That opened on July 1 and spans 41.58 kilometers.
Yes, indeed, China does have cash flow.
Pretty soon, Beijing will be helping us to build our own bridges. Oh wait…it already does. This month the last segments of the new San Francisco cross-bay bridge to Oakland will be shipped from Shanghai. Scheduled for completion by 2013, projects like these just might be a harbinger of things to come: a China that’s moved on from making our flags and fireworks to our major bridges and buildings.
Critics will ask if that’s something to be proud of. I’ll suggest we just happily wave our American flags and light our celebratory fireworks.
And for the evening, try not to think about where they were made.
Happy Dependence Day, America! Love, China.
(CNN) – Oh say can you see…the end of American independence?
This Fourth of July, the United States celebrates its 235th year of freedom from British rule. That’s emancipated us from yeasty marmite, pesky ‘u’s in our ‘neighbors’ and from having to ask God to “save the Queen”.
Phew. Yes, today we celebrate our independence from Britain.
But we do that by underlining our growing dependence on another country – China. And with our most patriotic of Americana for the day – fireworks and flags.
Nearly 97% of U.S. money for firework imports popped up in China last year, according to U.S. trade statistics. The hard numbers: we paid nearly $200 million for all of our skyrockets, Roman candles, sparklers and other pyrotechnics. More than $190 million of that went to the Middle Kingdom.
As for the Stars and Stripes, about 88% of our money for American flag imports billowed over to China in 2010. U.S. foreign trade statistics show that the U.S. imported $3.2 million worth of flags, and $2.8 million of that went to our top trade partner.
But fireworks and flags, as dazzling or inspiring they may be, are just small examples of a trend that we know has been happening: growing American reliance on Chinese imports and a widening trade gap.
The U.S. China-Business Council’s website highlights America’s burgeoning trade imbalance over the last decade. In 2001, the U.S. ran up a deficit with China of $83 billion. By 2010 however, that number had more than tripled to $273 billion – the largest trade imbalance the U.S. has ever had with a single country.
So as the U.S. suffers from a trade deficit, how does China enjoy its trade excess?
Well, a good deal of that money is found in its domestic infrastructure projects. As an old China hand, I can tell you that around the country China is building out everything from its national road network and subway systems, to its airports, trains and bridges.
According to Caixin, China currently has about 175 airports across the country. By 2013, it aims to push that number up to 230. That’s like building a brand-new airport in each U.S. state in the next year and a half.
China spent $34 billion on its new high-speed rail line linking Beijing and Shanghai. It just opened on June 30 shunting passengers 1,318 kilometers in just under five hours.
And more than $1.5 billion was floated to build the world’s longest bridge in Qingdao, China. That opened on July 1 and spans 41.58 kilometers.
Yes, indeed, China does have cash flow.
Pretty soon, Beijing will be helping us to build our own bridges. Oh wait…it already does. This month the last segments of the new San Francisco cross-bay bridge to Oakland will be shipped from Shanghai. Scheduled for completion by 2013, projects like these just might be a harbinger of things to come: a China that’s moved on from making our flags and fireworks to our major bridges and buildings.
Critics will ask if that’s something to be proud of. I’ll suggest we just happily wave our American flags and light our celebratory fireworks.
And for the evening, try not to think about where they were made.
croyde said:
The Channel Tunnel is a pretty amazing bit of engineering and the fact that it was built from both the English and the French sides and had to zig-zag all over the place yet they still met in the middle and were only 10mm out. Stunning.
Indeed, now all we need is a bridge like this one so no more stupidly expensive train tickets for a day out on the mainland.jbi said:
croyde said:
The Channel Tunnel is a pretty amazing bit of engineering and the fact that it was built from both the English and the French sides and had to zig-zag all over the place yet they still met in the middle and were only 10mm out. Stunning.
Indeed, now all we need is a bridge like this one so no more stupidly expensive train tickets for a day out on the mainland.
Jimbeaux said:
Why don't you elaborate upon that for us.
I'm going to assume you're joking.Nicaragua - The [International Court of Justice] found in its verdict that the United States was "in breach of its obligations under customary international law not to use force against another State", "not to intervene in its affairs", "not to violate its sovereignty", "not to interrupt peaceful maritime commerce", and "in breach of its obligations under Article XIX of the Treaty of Friendship, Commerce and Navigation between the Parties signed at Managua on 21 January 1956."
For example. Or propping up any number of right wing dictators.
Your holier-than-thou attitude does grate.
shalmaneser said:
Jimbeaux said:
Why don't you elaborate upon that for us.
I'm going to assume you're joking.Nicaragua - The [International Court of Justice] found in its verdict that the United States was "in breach of its obligations under customary international law not to use force against another State", "not to intervene in its affairs", "not to violate its sovereignty", "not to interrupt peaceful maritime commerce", and "in breach of its obligations under Article XIX of the Treaty of Friendship, Commerce and Navigation between the Parties signed at Managua on 21 January 1956."
For example. Or propping up any number of right wing dictators.
Your holier-than-thou attitude does grate.
"International Court of Justice"? Are you quite serious?
BTW, Nicaragua is in Central, not South America.....major difference. Go read a map instead of the Red Star and come back for a visit when you can sound a bit less like a Sandanista patsie.
Edited by Jimbeaux on Wednesday 6th July 04:31
Edited by Jimbeaux on Wednesday 6th July 11:26
croyde said:
Mmmm! Why has a thread about a long bridge in China turned into a p1551ng contest about who is the most evil super power.
To be honest as a Brit I'd much rather the Americans won then it might be easier and cheaper to get hold of a new Chevrolet Camaro.
Another fine example of love of cars as diplomacy. To be honest as a Brit I'd much rather the Americans won then it might be easier and cheaper to get hold of a new Chevrolet Camaro.
Jimbeaux said:
croyde said:
Mmmm! Why has a thread about a long bridge in China turned into a p1551ng contest about who is the most evil super power.
To be honest as a Brit I'd much rather the Americans won then it might be easier and cheaper to get hold of a new Chevrolet Camaro.
Another fine example of love of cars as diplomacy. To be honest as a Brit I'd much rather the Americans won then it might be easier and cheaper to get hold of a new Chevrolet Camaro.
Reminds me of a news item during the Gulf War when a bunch of guys were being interviewed as to why they were heading to Iraq.
Various chants of "Death to America", "We fight with our brothers" etc
The final shout was "We hate all things American!"
Then they all hopped into a big V8 Chevrolet and headed East across the desert.
Hilarious!
Edited by croyde on Wednesday 6th July 14:01
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