Undercover Cop switches sides and supports Green Hippies.

Undercover Cop switches sides and supports Green Hippies.

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Smiler.

11,752 posts

231 months

Monday 10th January 2011
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Pesty said:
Manee said:
This is a film ready to be made!!

it alreads has been its called Avatar smile

I wonder f there are other under cover Police ad if they are I wonder if he has outed them
Very similar to the plot of I.D.

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tractorguy

765 posts

160 months

Monday 10th January 2011
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Jinx said:
Sounds like a remake of http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113375/
laugh It would be a more pc version of it anyway.

DeadMeat_UK

3,058 posts

283 months

Monday 10th January 2011
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I quite liked the story, made me smile.

Assume he went in as cynical about it as an average PHer.

Then he actually got to like them, and believe in it.

Must be something in it. Or a woman.




Lost_BMW

12,955 posts

177 months

Monday 10th January 2011
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One thing that has pissed me off tonight is hearing (R4) and then seeing (Ch4) a Jenny Jones introduced and signed as "Green Party, Metropolitan Police Force" arguing against the police tactics and what, in her view, is a waste of money given these twots "have the right to protest" (to close a power station?)

So she is using the media to push her environmental-political views and arguing against decisions of other forces/superiors. How the hell can she get away with this? She should shut her mouth and do the job we tax payers pay her for, and be put in her place by bosses. Surely this is a disciplinary matter, to publicly attack/shape/hamper force policy from within . . . mad

MK4 Slowride

10,028 posts

209 months

Monday 10th January 2011
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Smiler. said:
Pesty said:
Manee said:
This is a film ready to be made!!

it alreads has been its called Avatar smile

I wonder f there are other under cover Police ad if they are I wonder if he has outed them
Very similar to the plot of I.D.

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My name's John, I can be nice or I can be nasty...

plasticpig

12,932 posts

226 months

Monday 10th January 2011
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Lost_BMW said:
plasticpig said:
It's not like these people are major criminals
"The six were charged with conspiring to shut down the Ratcliffe-on-Soar power station in Nottingham in 2009.

Excuse me? Not major criminals?
They were charged with conspiracy to commit aggravated trespass. Which carries a maximum sentence of six months. If you think that's a major crime what do you consider murder to be? Given that the others already convicted were either given conditional discharges or community service orders I doubt this bunch were going to get prison time if convicted.


Lost_BMW

12,955 posts

177 months

Monday 10th January 2011
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plasticpig said:
Lost_BMW said:
plasticpig said:
It's not like these people are major criminals
"The six were charged with conspiring to shut down the Ratcliffe-on-Soar power station in Nottingham in 2009.

Excuse me? Not major criminals?
They were charged with conspiracy to commit aggravated trespass. Which carries a maximum sentence of six months. If you think that's a major crime what do you consider murder to be? Given that the others already convicted were either given conditional discharges or community service orders I doubt this bunch were going to get prison time if convicted.
bks. You know damn well I'd think murder a major crime. The sentences the political cowards and weaklings in this country, as it slides ever further to the dogs, is hardly an indication of its real severity. Otherwise muggers wouldn't get a few months for causing real harm, nonces out in a couple of years etc. What a ttish line to take.

As for these self appointed, sanctimonious, anti society and anti science climate activists yes, I do consider that they are major criminals if, as reported, they planned criminal activity to stop the legitimate business of the power station. Who gives these prats the right to hinder people in the course of their legitimate work and to damage the economy of our country. How much would their publicity stunt have cost? Compare that with a jewel heist for example. Apologist.

If they want to protest do so legally through the media or parliament etc. but not through criminal acts. I'd like to give the bds community service; hard labour producing the energy we need and that they'd deny us - and make them manage without the electricity they despise as they are at it.

What next, if this line fails, bombs. I bet some of them have it in them . .

Pupp

12,239 posts

273 months

Monday 10th January 2011
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One of the many disturbing features of this appears to be that the unit Kennedy worked within looks like it is controlled by ACPO and is therefore outside the reporting structures of the statutory police service. ACPO is a limited company formed by and for the benefit of chief officers of police and is not directly answerable to any police authority or any govt body.

whoami

13,151 posts

241 months

Saturday 15th January 2011
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I'm perplexed by the lack of the usual rabid interest in this "traitor".


Pesty

42,655 posts

257 months

Saturday 15th January 2011
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caught something on the news today.

Apparently the case was not dropped because he said he would help the other side as was claimed. It was for another reason, I wonder why that story got out? trying to cover something else up?

I found it on the BBC. It does sound like the police blamed this guy yet it seems they tried to withold evidence form the defence.

So are the police trying to get convictions knowing they didn't have enough evidence?? see below if this is true this seems really out of order to me and I hate hippies.



"The men's defence team asked prosecutors to disclose full details of the officer's activities - reportedly prompting the Crown Prosecution Service to drop their case."

The Independent Police Complaints Commission is to examine whether Nottinghamshire Police disclosed all relevant material.

Mr Kennedy told the newspaper that he believed tape recordings secretly made by him were withheld from the court by police for fear it would destroy the prosecution's case.

"The truth of the matter is that the tapes clearly show that the six defendants who were due to go on trial had not joined any conspiracy," he said.

"The tapes I made meant that the police couldn't prove their case." If the bit in bold is true is this not really sinister?




http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12199686











Edited by Pesty on Saturday 15th January 23:22

Deva Link

26,934 posts

246 months

Saturday 15th January 2011
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Pupp said:
One of the many disturbing features of this appears to be that the unit Kennedy worked within looks like it is controlled by ACPO and is therefore outside the reporting structures of the statutory police service. ACPO is a limited company formed by and for the benefit of chief officers of police and is not directly answerable to any police authority or any govt body.
I don;t like the existence of ACPO at all, but it could be that they were used by the Government to isolate them from this operation.

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

263 months

Saturday 15th January 2011
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Pesty said:
caught something on the news today.

Apparently teh case was not dropped because he said he would help teh other side. It was for another reason, I wonder why that story got out? trying to cover something else up?
^^^^^^^^^^^this.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12199686

The men's defence team asked prosecutors to disclose full details of the officer's activities - reportedly prompting the Crown Prosecution Service to drop their case.

The Independent Police Complaints Commission is to examine whether Nottinghamshire Police disclosed all relevant material.

Mr Kennedy told the newspaper that he believed tape recordings secretly made by him were withheld from the court by police for fear it would destroy the prosecution's case.

"The truth of the matter is that the tapes clearly show that the six defendants who were due to go on trial had not joined any conspiracy," he said.

"The tapes I made meant that the police couldn't prove their case."

'No confidence'

Mr Kennedy criticised police procedures for dealing with him.

"There have been a lot of mistakes made, a lot of operational decisions have been wrong... and I think I am being made a scapegoat."

He also said: "The extraction policies for taking an undercover officer out of the activist scene after their deployment has finished is appalling. I had no confidence at all that my safety was ever going to be regarded."

He added: "I want to tell my story and tell how there is a huge mismanagement of staff for the sake of gathering intelligence.

"It has jeopardised my life and it could jeopardise the lives of other officers.

He told the newspaper he had gone to the US amid fears for his safety.
'Grey and murky'

"I can't sleep," he said. "I have lost weight and am constantly on edge.

"I barricade the door with chairs at night. I am in genuine fear for my life. I have been told that my former bosses from the force are out here in America looking for me. I have been told by activists to watch my back as people are out to get me."

He described the "world of undercover policing" as "grey and murky".

"There is some bad stuff going on. Really bad stuff.

No James Bond then, laugh

Lost_BMW

12,955 posts

177 months

Sunday 16th January 2011
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Mojocvh said:
He also said: "The extraction policies for taking an undercover officer out of the activist scene after their deployment has finished is appalling. I had no confidence at all that my safety was ever going to be regarded."

He added: "I want to tell my story and tell how there is a huge mismanagement of staff for the sake of gathering intelligence.

"It has jeopardised my life and it could jeopardise the lives of other officers.

He told the newspaper he had gone to the US amid fears for his safety.
'Grey and murky'

"I can't sleep," he said. "I have lost weight and am constantly on edge.

"I barricade the door with chairs at night. I am in genuine fear for my life. I have been told that my former bosses from the force are out here in America looking for me. I have been told by activists to watch my back as people are out to get me."
I was criticised for asking why the green louts were not major criminals, as had been said in a prior post - personally I class them with terrorists and other assorted anarchist scum. Now, he's lived amongst these friendly, well meaning, save the planet do-gooder types for some time and yet he's this scared?

Maybe there is more to them, their agenda and their capabilities than we know. Don't seem so cosy-friendly now do they, unless he's scared that his cover has been blown from a previous embedding with different characters, now out for his blood?

Pesty

42,655 posts

257 months

Sunday 16th January 2011
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or he is making out he is scared for his own reasons. Claim by any chance?

I'm sure he is not scared in teh slightest.

Eddw86

742 posts

188 months

Sunday 16th January 2011
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-ord...

Basically same as the BBC article. He mentions that what he was in contact at all times with his bosses and they knew what he was upto.

I definitely think there is more to this than meets the eye.

Talksteer

4,887 posts

234 months

Sunday 16th January 2011
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plasticpig said:
Lost_BMW said:
plasticpig said:
It's not like these people are major criminals
"The six were charged with conspiring to shut down the Ratcliffe-on-Soar power station in Nottingham in 2009.

Excuse me? Not major criminals?
They were charged with conspiracy to commit aggravated trespass. Which carries a maximum sentence of six months. If you think that's a major crime what do you consider murder to be? Given that the others already convicted were either given conditional discharges or community service orders I doubt this bunch were going to get prison time if convicted.
Ratcliffe Upon Soar power station turns over ~£2 million pounds per day. If these protesters managed to close it down for for even a few hours the financial costs would be significant.

What these people were planning wasn't civil disobedience, it was disruption of the activities of a legitimate private business operating within the laws of the land and providing an essential service.

If they had succeeded in shutting the plant down we would have all paid for it either in insurance premiums or increased energy bills.

I could genuinely believe that I should burn down the houses of some of these environmentalists to highlight hypocrisy of their actions. Lets say I did ten of them to get the value about the same.

What sort of sentence would you expect get for that?

Steal £2 million
Defraud £2 million
Arson to value of £2 million
Vandalism to the value of £2 million

All serious crimes, but closing down a power station is "civil disobedience"

hidetheelephants

24,472 posts

194 months

Sunday 16th January 2011
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How in the wide wide world of sports can it cost £250kPA to pay the salary of a PC, undercover or otherwise? How long will it be before he has a book deal and sells the film rights to Bruckheimer? And is this not almost as scary as that picture of Libdem mutants?




Lost_BMW

12,955 posts

177 months

Sunday 16th January 2011
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^^^

Agree absolutely, 100%.

Anti-democratic, hypocritical, criminal scum. Jail time should be mandatory for these idiots, who think they have some unique cause-based sanction to ignore the law and mess with others' legal activities.

Mr_annie_vxr

9,270 posts

212 months

Sunday 16th January 2011
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Lost_BMW said:
^^^

Agree absolutely, 100%.

Anti-democratic, hypocritical, criminal scum. Jail time should be mandatory for these idiots, who think they have some unique cause-based sanction to ignore the law and mess with others' legal activities.
As should the sanction be against the officer. It's misconduct in a public office.

ShadownINja

76,396 posts

283 months

Sunday 16th January 2011
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Pesty said:
Manee said:
This is a film ready to be made!!

it alreads has been its called Avatar smile
Jinx said:
Sounds like a remake of http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113375/
Bedazzled said:
Manee said:
This is a film ready to be made!!
Thank God nobody suggested it sounded like The Fast And The Furious. Anyway, the film you all wanted was Who Dares Wins. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_Dares_Wins_(film)