Seriously do these imbeciles live in the real world.........

[rs1952]

Any of the people foaming at the mouth on this thread read the article?

Important sentence: "Aslef said there was a "remote chance" of its members walking out on 29 April, when Prince William and Kate Middleton are due to wed at Westminster Abbey." Note the phrase "remote chance"

So ASLEF are asking for a pay rise. What's new? Have they never done it before? Funny, I could have sworn I'd heard they'd done that once or twice.

So what if they do strike? Its a bank holiday Monday - many of the workforce won't be around anyway. The buses will stil be running, as will the taxis. If all else fails, you could always try legging it around central London

Incidentally, when I worked on the railway (1969 to 1976), bank holiday working was time and a half plus a day in lieu. No idea if its changed since.

[Sticks.]

Oops, just read the title and assumed it was another thread about bankers' bonuses.

[phil-sti]

there contracts will say what they get paid for working Bank Holidays but as this is an extra the union will be trying it on as there compelete knobs. i'll be working it for normal rate as my contract states and i'll say thanks to William for the extra days holiday for me to use sometime during my year

[rs1952]

sato said:

From second to last paragraph
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/jan/10/royal-wed...
they get 7 weeks holiday a year already???

AS I read the BBC article, that 7 weeks (35 days) included bank holidays. Take those 8 days off and you get 27 days "true" annual leave, or just less then five and a half weeks.

Nothing unusual about that IME

[kmc1]

rs1952 said:

Incidentally, when I worked on the railway (1969 to 1976), bank holiday working was time and a half plus a day in lieu. No idea if its changed since.

No, it's normal time and you get the day back as part of your annual leave(provided you worked it of course)

the triple time bit is merely a negotiating point (i reackon they would settle for time and a half). This particular bank holiday is outside of the contract hence why it needs to negotiated seperately

unlikely to go ahead as no-one has been balloted yet and has not been sanctioned by the executive commitee.Probably announced just to get the ball rolling and not leave it to the last minute as per usual

[thinfourth2]

Simple solution

Close the tube for the day

fk em

[eccles]

Perhaps they should be told it's a public holiday, not a bank holiday so is not part of their normal bank holiday allowance and is at the discretion of the employer.

[Kermit power]

In this particular instance, I'd have to say I don't blame the tube drivers at all.

If the government decided at random to give everyone an extra day's holiday over something as completely trivial as a royal wedding, and my employer then expected me to work it, I'd be inclined to tell them where to shove it too.

Either this wedding is an important event of national celebration or it isn't. If it is, then why shouldn't tube drivers have the day off just like everyone else, and if it isn't, why the fk has everyone else got the day off?

[Manee]

people know when they start a job what their stance on bank holidays is

then why the fk do you start objecting when you dont like it??

you sign a contract which states this is what you get do you accept?

[Kermit power]

Manee said:

people know when they start a job what their stance on bank holidays is

then why the fk do you start objecting when you dont like it??

you sign a contract which states this is what you get do you accept?

They don't object to the contractual obligations over the normal bank holidays. This is just because the government has decided to chuck in another one for no good reason.

[andy43]

Have to agree - it's been created as a day of celebration.
If employers then want people to work instead, that's when the negotiations start.

[whoami]

CoopR said:

Fittster said:

Hmm, how much were IT geeks asking for the work the millennium?

People will ask for what they can get away with, private or public sector.

For every staff worker I know it was business as usual.

Me too.

I paid my teams no more than usual but gave the ones who were in covering time off.

[kmc1]

Manee said:

people know when they start a job what their stance on bank holidays is

then why the fk do you start objecting when you dont like it??

you sign a contract which states this is what you get do you accept?

as has been said this is outside of what was signed for so has to be negotiated seperately

[johnxjsc1985]

There is an awful lot of goodwill in this World. Talk about shooting youself in the foot this will really get the public right behind them,

[Kermit power]

johnxjsc1985 said:

There is an awful lot of goodwill in this World. Talk about shooting youself in the foot this will really get the public right behind them,

Is your employer expecting you to work on this extra bank holiday that everyone else is getting?

[johnxjsc1985]

Kermit power said:

johnxjsc1985 said:

There is an awful lot of goodwill in this World. Talk about shooting youself in the foot this will really get the public right behind them,

Is your employer expecting you to work on this extra bank holiday that everyone else is getting?

Try working in Retail.

[JagLover]

Rude-boy said:

ASLEF - Giving Yokels a reason to feel sorry for Towies since 1880.

This lot and the FBU must surely see that they have done more harm to unions than Maggie (peace be upon her) could ever have dreamed of. They have no idea how to play the long game, and as a result their membership will lose horribly in the end, you only have to see how dramatically different the public view of fire-fighters is today compared with 10 years ago.

Particularly as the tube drivers job is to run a glorified scalatrix set. I think in some countries it is already automated. Shame we can't do the same thing here.

Edited by JagLover on Tuesday 11th January 10:49

[kmc1]

JagLover said:

Particularly as the tube drivers job is to run a glorified scalatrix set. I think in some countries it is already automated. Same we can't do the same thing here.

doesn't matter if it's automated or not it will still need a member of staff on board and signallers/controllers.

this isn't a union stipulation. they are HMRI rules.

[remedy]

Kermit power said:

johnxjsc1985 said:

There is an awful lot of goodwill in this World. Talk about shooting youself in the foot this will really get the public right behind them,

Is your employer expecting you to work on this extra bank holiday that everyone else is getting?

Why shouldn't they? Companies are under no obligation to give it as it is not a bank holiday.

[98elise]

whoami said:

CoopR said:

Fittster said:

Hmm, how much were IT geeks asking for the work the millennium?

People will ask for what they can get away with, private or public sector.

For every staff worker I know it was business as usual.

Me too.

I paid my teams no more than usual but gave the ones who were in covering time off.

Nothing special here for employee's either

People who had to be there got double time. People needed to test systems on new years day(from home) got a day in leiu but no extra money.

We also don't normally get paid anything for overtime, including weekend working.