Australian Floods - Never park next to the river

Australian Floods - Never park next to the river

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anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 13th January 2011
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deviant said:
Well said Tinman! Our economy is going to take a big hit over this...small businesses are gone, farms are gone, towns are badly damaged and people can't go to work. On top of that a great number of people do not have any flood insurance....after the 1974 floods the insurers would not cover for flood damage rolleyes

All the damage needs to be fixed and the government needs to support the people that have lost everything but have no means of financial recovery. Imagine being left with a mortgage for a house that does not even exist any more!
Out of interest, how much have Aussie cities grown in the last 30-40 years? Has there been a big development drive since the £10 Poms? I'm just curious as to the impact of these floods vs the 1974 ones.

GTIR

24,741 posts

266 months

Thursday 13th January 2011
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Opulent said:
deviant said:
Well said Tinman! Our economy is going to take a big hit over this...small businesses are gone, farms are gone, towns are badly damaged and people can't go to work. On top of that a great number of people do not have any flood insurance....after the 1974 floods the insurers would not cover for flood damage rolleyes

All the damage needs to be fixed and the government needs to support the people that have lost everything but have no means of financial recovery. Imagine being left with a mortgage for a house that does not even exist any more!
Out of interest, how much have Aussie cities grown in the last 30-40 years? Has there been a big development drive since the £10 Poms? I'm just curious as to the impact of these floods vs the 1974 ones.
Link to pdf of 1974 floods
http://www.brisbanebusinessfinance.com/images/1974...

ETA It looks like that big lump left of "kangeroo point" at the top of the map is now the business district/downtown which wasn't that badly effected this year.

Edited by GTIR on Thursday 13th January 15:58


Edited by GTIR on Thursday 13th January 16:01

s3fella

10,524 posts

187 months

Thursday 13th January 2011
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KenBlocksPants said:
GTIR said:
jonnylarge said:
Apologies if a repost, but here's some pretty dramatic footage of the floods in Australia:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYUpkPTcqPY
"The handbrake is on" stopping it moving in the flood! hehe
Silly bint.
35 seconds in "Should we move our cars to the front?"

What ya reckon?
She says "he's letting the air out of his tyres so it wont float...."

WTF!! Is she that dim?

dandarez

13,288 posts

283 months

Thursday 13th January 2011
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Google [bot] said:
Patrick's Dad said:
Lets see how a supposed 1st world country copes with a natural disaster on this scale....
I notice no offers of cash and donations from well anyone really!
You hush your mouth, Julia's pledged one million dollars.
Julia Gifford was born here so she'll keep her word...
ahhh...

nah, you'll be ok. She seems honorable.

The lying bds of politicians are all still firmly rooted here in the UK.

That was some vid of those vehicles etc being swept away.
Nature, hey, don't mess with it and don't call it climate change!

crmcatee

5,694 posts

227 months

Thursday 13th January 2011
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A million dollars is going to go nowhere to restore what's been trashed. I would think that the repairs and reinstatement of the CityCat terminals is going to take that budget and a lot more negating replacing anything else thats been washed away like the walkway that came loose the other night.

I'll be a Million dollars to probably clean the streets in the CBD area alone.

Laurel Green

30,780 posts

232 months

Thursday 13th January 2011
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Talking of donations; was nice to see the England and Australian cricketers donating all/some of? yesterdays match-fees towards the cause.

NDA

21,586 posts

225 months

Thursday 13th January 2011
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My reaction to the flooding has moved from 'woah, that looks bad' to genuine sadness for the thousands who are facing real hardship - and worse.

The photo of the young boy who was swept away with his mother has hit home very hard. He was very similar to my son.

I hope the UK will do whatever it can to help our Aussie cousins.

Patrick's Dad

220 posts

276 months

Thursday 13th January 2011
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tinman0 said:
Patrick's Dad said:
If you're planning a holiday to Queensland this year - think again
Sorry, but that bit of advice is extremely dangerous.

Once the water has gone down, tourism needs to resume as quickly as possible. Insurance may cover the rebuild but it doesn't cover consequential loses. By all means, give the place a couple of weeks to get tidy again, but get in there and start supporting the tourist industry. It does not help a hotel in the slightest that when they reopen, people on the internet have told everyone to stay away.

Yes, there will be some hotels that are badly damaged, but likewise, there will be plenty of places in the area that are ok, and they are the ones who suffer dramatically.

Advice like "avoid Pensacola Beach" after the Gulf Spill have cost our area at home millions upon millions of dollars. Despite the beaches being kept rigorously free of oil, the summer was destroyed because people were told that they would be wading in oil by "well minded individuals".

Hurricane Katrina cost New Orleans dear because of the "internet" advice saying stay away - the French Quarter barely had a drop of water!
Get off your high horse.
It was an of the cuff remark and if you think a couple of weeks is going to see Brisbane and Queensland 'Tidy' then you've vastly underestimated the extent of the damage here.
There will be food shortages, fuel shortages and a shortage of accomodation for at leats 6 months. 20000 people have been dispalced - where do you imagine they are going to stay?
Sure we need tourism but folk need to be aware of what they are going to find when they get here.


crmcatee

5,694 posts

227 months

Friday 14th January 2011
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Apartments and hotels are going to be in short supply for a while.


Annoyingly as I had hoped to start renting a place in March/April sometime.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 14th January 2011
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crmcatee said:
Apartments and hotels are going to be in short supply for a while.


Annoyingly as I had hoped to start renting a place in March/April sometime.


(Sorry)

crmcatee

5,694 posts

227 months

Friday 14th January 2011
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Does it come with a mini bar smile

tinman0

18,231 posts

240 months

Friday 14th January 2011
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Patrick's Dad said:
Get off your high horse.
It was an of the cuff remark and if you think a couple of weeks is going to see Brisbane and Queensland 'Tidy' then you've vastly underestimated the extent of the damage here.
There will be food shortages, fuel shortages and a shortage of accomodation for at leats 6 months. 20000 people have been dispalced - where do you imagine they are going to stay?
Sure we need tourism but folk need to be aware of what they are going to find when they get here.
It's those off the cuff remarks on the internet that cause people and companies real hard ship, so no, I won't get off my horse thank you.

I've been on the receiving end of several disasters to know that your advice is rubbish. Things like Hurricane Ivan followed by Hurricane Dennis landing directly on us, Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans (several of my family work for FEMA, plus we land an event in New Orleans so know many people in the tourism industry), plus we had to liaise with a town in Switzerland that was flooded just before an event landed there. Most recently, some plonker spilled oil into the Gulf and despite nearly no oil on our beach, people like you were on the internet telling people to stay away!

I know exactly how tourism and disasters work to know that your "off the cuff remarks" cost people livelihoods.

As for where people will go, very few will end up in hotels in even the medium term. People will want to get back on site to their homes, and will want to rebuild as quickly as possible. Not sit in a hotel room staring at a wall.