Fire Extingusher chucker from the student demos...
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About time they put thier foot down with these hooligans, I'd like it if tuition fees had to go up another grand per student on top of the current rises in order to pay for the policing and vandalism because the spoilt little brats can't behave properly.
still its about half eight on Eddy boys first night behind bars, as "lights out" gets closer and closer, I bet he wishes he was anywhere but there.
Ironically in a couple of years time, he'll probably be able to fit a fire extinguisher up his arse
still its about half eight on Eddy boys first night behind bars, as "lights out" gets closer and closer, I bet he wishes he was anywhere but there.
Ironically in a couple of years time, he'll probably be able to fit a fire extinguisher up his arse
Crafty_ said:
Maybe it'll make them all stop and think. He'll be out in under a year I reckon?
Ask 10p Short, I'm sure he'll tell you that a week in prison feels like a year! This "student" did something with obvious malicious intent and he's been caught, it won't have ruined his life (altered it somewhat), but it could have easily ruined someone else's. But for blind luck he could now be lying awake at night thinking about the husband and father he'd killed by his misplaced malice and stupidity.
However, it won't make the rest stop and think, the response of other students will be that the oppressive government are making an example of him for political reasons and that he's "done nothing wrong." Some young people have a mature outlook on life, however an awful lot are still stropey teenagers with the attendant victimisation complex. The stupidity of their cause, and the way in which they have addressed it, reek of a large rattle being hurled from a large pram - to use a relevant bit of imagery!
It's a shame that someone who appears to be from a very good background has made such poor choices and ruined his future prospects. His mother's attitude is laudable and thoroughly decent and is a refreshing change from the usual "my Wayne ain't done fack all innit". Hopefully he's learned a valuable lesson and will continue to learn that lesson and will make better choices in the future.
Justice well served IMHO.
Agree it's a shame though and that he has to pay for a poorly made decision made in the heat of the moment. Unfortunately, as with the rest of the mob, these kids aren't of an age where rational and well balanced decisions come easily, hence the riots at a time when 99% of the population are suffering financially.
Agree it's a shame though and that he has to pay for a poorly made decision made in the heat of the moment. Unfortunately, as with the rest of the mob, these kids aren't of an age where rational and well balanced decisions come easily, hence the riots at a time when 99% of the population are suffering financially.
Mad Dave said:
It's a shame that someone who appears to be from a very good background has made such poor choices and ruined his future prospects. His mother's attitude is laudable and thoroughly decent and is a refreshing change from the usual "my Wayne ain't done fack all innit". Hopefully he's learned a valuable lesson and will continue to learn that lesson and will make better choices in the future.
It hasn't ruined his life, just put it on hiatus for a few years.In less than a week my conviction for student stupidity is officially spent - taught me a valuable lesson - don't get caught
Somewhatfoolish said:
Mad Dave said:
It's a shame that someone who appears to be from a very good background has made such poor choices and ruined his future prospects. His mother's attitude is laudable and thoroughly decent and is a refreshing change from the usual "my Wayne ain't done fack all innit". Hopefully he's learned a valuable lesson and will continue to learn that lesson and will make better choices in the future.
It hasn't ruined his life, just put it on hiatus for a few years.In less than a week my conviction for student stupidity is officially spent - taught me a valuable lesson - don't get caught
singlecoil said:
Escort2dr said:
My response was curt because I really couldn't care less how much he has cocked his life up (thanks for spelling it out, but it's of no consequence). You were verging on sounding sympathetic to him.
Like I said, tough s
t. Let's have more justice like this.
I'm not particularly sympathetic to him, and I believe the sentence is about right. However, I think it is entirely possible that he didn't intend for the extinguisher to land on anybody. I'm not defending him, what he did was very stupid, but that's what people do, especially young ones, they do stupid things. In his case his reward was a severe punishment, and that's entirely appropriate, but more for the message it sends to others than for his own benefit.Like I said, tough s
t. Let's have more justice like this.
From all the film of that bunch of f
kwittery that day there was somewhere near bugger-all space down below him to even stand a chance of missing some poor sod down below. The heavy (have you picked one up lately?) lump of metal could kill easily at that speed. That it missed was as near a miracle as we'll ever see.Still...
Mom is fit isn't she?
Hmmmmm
hidetheelephants said:
I guess I'm in a minority; while I agree he deserved a custodial sentence, does it really warrant 32 months? You can get less than that for vehicular manslaughter or stabbing someone; you know, actually doing someone harm?
See above. There was an 80% chance he would have killed someone lobbing that thing off the roof into the crowd.He is a lucky chap that it is a nominal 32 months, and not to be on a murder or manslaughter charge.
Murder, because he did seem to take time to aim the thing.
hidetheelephants said:
I guess I'm in a minority; while I agree he deserved a custodial sentence, does it really warrant 32 months? You can get less than that for vehicular manslaughter or stabbing someone; you know, actually doing someone harm?
Yes it does. The fact the sentance for vehicular manslaughter is too low does not make this sentance wrong.He is a very very lucky young man, he could have been done for attempted murder or murder.
eharding said:
Murder, because he did seem to take time to aim the thing.
That time taken could just have easily been to select a spot where it was not going to hit a person, but to have exploded, thus adding to the general mayhem but without actually harming anyone. Yes, I know that that was a very, very stupid thing to do, but stupidity isn't murder.singlecoil said:
Mill Wheel said:
singlecoil said:
F i F said:
Also he's (Eric Illsley) parliamentary advisor to the Caravan Club which says something.
I believe it says he gets money from them in exchange for promoting their interests.ked if I know. I expect it's money, though, it usually is.HFLagos said:
Flintstone said:
Escort2dr said:
Flintstone said:
I doubt he could have foreseen just how badly this would screw up his life. Just about to sit his 'A' Levels, even if he continues to study and takes them I doubt the results will be as good as they might have been. University? With a record? There goes any prospect of a decent career then. Best he can hope for is to go back to the New Forest and make a living carving ornaments out of fallen timber sympathetically collected from the woods or similar. I did read in t' Times that he wanted to be a copper.
Wonder if those on the wanted list are starting to pucker a bit?
Tough sWonder if those on the wanted list are starting to pucker a bit?
t. He will know the difference between right and wrong. His choice to behave like a tt.But meanwhile there are tens of thousands of yobs who make life a misery for millions of people in this country and they don't even get caught. When they do they don't get punished.
So I think in that context, it's not that he's been severely punished for his crime, but that his sentance should be more regularly passed out to other more severe criminals - those with intent on hurting people daily.
oyster said:
I think the problem people have (as I do) is that here is a previously law-abiding person from a normal family who made one very stupid mistake and is paying a very high price. OK fine.
But meanwhile there are tens of thousands of yobs who make life a misery for millions of people in this country and they don't even get caught. When they do they don't get punished.
So I think in that context, it's not that he's been severely punished for his crime, but that his sentance should be more regularly passed out to other more severe criminals - those with intent on hurting people daily.
Well said.But meanwhile there are tens of thousands of yobs who make life a misery for millions of people in this country and they don't even get caught. When they do they don't get punished.
So I think in that context, it's not that he's been severely punished for his crime, but that his sentance should be more regularly passed out to other more severe criminals - those with intent on hurting people daily.
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