The government terrified of the Daily Mail

[otolith]

Bill said:

Which is bizarre given how misogynistic it seems to be.

It often seems that the people most judgemental of women are other women.

[Bill]

otolith said:

It often seems that the people most judgemental of women are other women.

Absolutely. The women's section should be bhMail rather than FeMail.

[Aids]

DonkeyApple said:

off_again said:

Fantastic example of how bad the Daily Whail can be:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1346563/Mi...

Its about West Mids Police having a Lotus Evora on loan. Anyway, within a few words of the title you have the facts, that its donated from Lotus (as a publicity exercise). Cue plenty of reader comments about the cost of sports cars and that the police are wasting money.... if the average reader of the DM cannot make it 35 words into the article then there is NOTHING we can do.

The DM know their market and fuel the embers of annoyance within it. It works well, clearly, and is not a good example of journalistic integrity.

#

Just one look at the home page this morning and the main visual features are a girl from X Factor and a girl from an American reality show. The paper is aimed at 2 types of people, those who are unhappy with their life, have immense internal rage at their own failings and need a vent and the plain fking stupid.

It's a scum paper for failed human beings. It is a hate fuelling propaganda machine and it is utterly depressing that it exists in this country.

Agreed

I used to read the Daily Mong website. But the examples stated, made me give up. Instead I read the Sun and read The Guardian website.

Hope the Mong folds altogether IMO!

[Bill]

From another thread:

tinman0 said:

In my experience, the only people who know who Daily Mail readers are, and what Daily Mail readers think, are the people who rarely (if ever) buy the Daily Mail. And 9/10 they are wrong.

The Anti Daily Mail argument is used by people who pretend they are brighter than they really are.

[crankedup]

Aids said:

DonkeyApple said:

off_again said:

Fantastic example of how bad the Daily Whail can be:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1346563/Mi...

Its about West Mids Police having a Lotus Evora on loan. Anyway, within a few words of the title you have the facts, that its donated from Lotus (as a publicity exercise). Cue plenty of reader comments about the cost of sports cars and that the police are wasting money.... if the average reader of the DM cannot make it 35 words into the article then there is NOTHING we can do.

The DM know their market and fuel the embers of annoyance within it. It works well, clearly, and is not a good example of journalistic integrity.

#

Just one look at the home page this morning and the main visual features are a girl from X Factor and a girl from an American reality show. The paper is aimed at 2 types of people, those who are unhappy with their life, have immense internal rage at their own failings and need a vent and the plain fking stupid.

It's a scum paper for failed human beings. It is a hate fuelling propaganda machine and it is utterly depressing that it exists in this country.

Agreed

I used to read the Daily Mong website. But the examples stated, made me give up. Instead I read the Sun and read The Guardian website.

Hope the Mong folds altogether IMO!

Brave man! admitting to reading Guardian news, I did that once and dug myself in even deeper by admitting I read the Morning Star!!! That caused some interesting exchanges Fortunately most posters in here understand me to some degree now. (nutter)

[Morningside]

I find 'The Express' is just as bad. A lot of their headlines seem to be tramping on The Mails territory.

Added: Talking about papers. Who actually reads 'The Star'?

Edited by Morningside on Thursday 13th January 12:10

[DonkeyApple]

Morningside said:

I find 'The Express' is just as bad. A lot of their headlines seem to be tramping on The Mails territory.

All the tabloids more or less operate on the same model.

First you need an Entertainments section which basically soft porn, then you need to employ people who are able to take any bit of tittle tattle and put a 'deadly' twist on it. Fearmongering, lies and tits.

You would like to think that most people who read these things are able to look at the stories objectively but even evidence on PH clearly shows that the average ready is all too ready and primed to buy into the shocking revelation.

[Zaxxon]

My parents 82 & 84 years old read the Daily Mail and the amount of times that they mention some article and we just end up argueing about it.

I constantly take the mickey out of them for reading the Daily Racist. It saddens me and I swear by Grabthar's hammer that I will never read that muck.

[anonymous-user]

The circulation of the Daily Mirror is also frightening.

[tinman0]

Derek Smith said:

I've got to say I'm afraid of the Daily Mail.

Of course you are. You are programmed to be afraid by the Guardian.

[Pesty]

voicey said:

The Mail is my most hated newspaper.

You havn't read the independent then. No wonder they have to give it away free at holiday inns.

[tomw2000]

DonkeyApple said:

It's a scum paper for failed human beings. It is a hate fuelling propaganda machine and it is utterly depressing that it exists in this country.

Love that

(could probably level the same accusation at most papers)

[Derek Smith]

Bill said:

otolith said:

It often seems that the people most judgemental of women are other women.

Absolutely. The women's section should be bhMail rather than FeMail.

That's a whole new thread. But I know what you mean. I used to write for any magazine that would publish and used to read women's magazines as their needs are insatiable: magazines not women - oh, hold on I feel another thread coming on.

However, they always ended up in the slush pile and I took a few to a professional and successful writer who made a fair bit out of women's magazines. She said my articles weren't female dog enough. She gave me some examples and she must have supplied them to FeMail writers as well.

Why do women read it? It they just wanted to be criticised unreasonably and made to feel insignificant then they could turn to their friends.

I think the bit that irritates me most is the fact that it is so pretentious. The Sun almost parodies itself, the Mail makes out it is the valient last bastion of whatever.

[AJI]

Isn't the main goal of any mainstream media outlet to sell their product? And in order to do so they publish stories that are likely to sell?
In modern times, and probably times of past, the stories that sell most are the ones that provoke strong emotional response.

To single out the Mail is being a bit narrow minded IMO. THEY ALL DO IT in one form or another don't they?

[DonkeyApple]

AJI said:

Isn't the main goal of any mainstream media outlet to sell their product? And in order to do so they publish stories that are likely to sell?
In modern times, and probably times of past, the stories that sell most are the ones that provoke strong emotional response.

To single out the Mail is being a bit narrow minded IMO. THEY ALL DO IT in one form or another don't they?

The founder of tabloid journalism:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Harmsworth,_1s...

Edited by DonkeyApple on Thursday 13th January 14:05

[Carrot]

AJI said:

To single out the Mail is being a bit narrow minded IMO. THEY ALL DO IT in one form or another don't they?

Yes, but it is a fashion statement to hate popular things (Fast food, certain papers, certain supermarkets etc)

I read the Daily Mail sometimes, others I read the BBC News, sometimes I read a local paper.

If you have the intelligence to read through the hype, then there is not really a problem. Often I get to read a story a couple of days before it appears in News, Politics and Economics simply because people refuse to read the story because "it is in the Daily Mail". Then someone quotes practically the identical story from somewhere else, but then of course that is ok. Snobbery rules!

Personally, I prefer not to be a fashion victim. I sometimes shop at Lidl if I am passing, and eat fast food occasionally. Some people really just need to get over themselves and get on with their lives IMO.

[DonkeyApple]

Carrot said:

AJI said:

To single out the Mail is being a bit narrow minded IMO. THEY ALL DO IT in one form or another don't they?

Yes, but it is a fashion statement to hate popular things (Fast food, certain papers, certain supermarkets etc)

I read the Daily Mail sometimes, others I read the BBC News, sometimes I read a local paper.

If you have the intelligence to read through the hype, then there is not really a problem. Often I get to read a story a couple of days before it appears in News, Politics and Economics simply because people refuse to read the story because "it is in the Daily Mail". Then someone quotes practically the identical story from somewhere else, but then of course that is ok. Snobbery rules!

Personally, I prefer not to be a fashion victim. I sometimes shop at Lidl if I am passing, and eat fast food occasionally. Some people really just need to get over themselves and get on with their lives IMO.

Yes, it's so exactly like not liking Armini Jeans.

[Bill]

Derek Smith said:

Why do women read it? It they just wanted to be criticised unreasonably and made to feel insignificant then they could turn to their friends.

It's the same pleasure, pain and guilt as chocolate, but without the calories.

[NoNeed]

crankedup said:

Reading this forum daily can leave an individual concerned about the state of the Country. BBC are crap, D.M. is crap, Guardian is crap, comic papers are OK because they are harmless, in fact evrything is crap if its not Conservative

I think it's more a hatred for new labour than a love of concervatives, Well it is for me. I wait patiently for two pre-election pledges to be forgotten about.

1. The fuel duty cap/set tax rate
2. the abolition of the human right act.

[turbobloke]

F i F said:

crankedup said:

in fact evrything is crap if its not Conservative

Actually under CMD even the Conservatives are crap.

Does that make me an undercover hippy then?



Oops hush ma mouth

Watch that lime green CMD tie quiver with emotion as it reaches out to the peeps.