Did the Pope perform a miracle?
Discussion
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/v...
Is this it? The proof long awaited that the big guy in the sky exists? Or did the doctors get it wrong?
Is this it? The proof long awaited that the big guy in the sky exists? Or did the doctors get it wrong?
Soovy said:
theboyfold said:
Soovy said:
I believe in a divine architect.
I don't believe in an organisation called the Church.
That's not something I would expect to see you write.I don't believe in an organisation called the Church.
This is a genuine question, what do you believe this 'divine architect' to be?
theboyfold said:
Soovy said:
theboyfold said:
Soovy said:
I believe in a divine architect.
I don't believe in an organisation called the Church.
That's not something I would expect to see you write.I don't believe in an organisation called the Church.
This is a genuine question, what do you believe this 'divine architect' to be?
It's all too mathematically perfect.
theboyfold said:
Soovy said:
theboyfold said:
Soovy said:
I believe in a divine architect.
I don't believe in an organisation called the Church.
That's not something I would expect to see you write.I don't believe in an organisation called the Church.
This is a genuine question, what do you believe this 'divine architect' to be?
http://www.devinehomes.co.uk/Webpage/94/Contact-Us...
Without knowing too much about this other than what's in the article, it seems like we'd need to know what the remission rate for Parkinsons is - as well as how common mis-diagnosis are.
It's like the old Lourdes thing - people only recover from recoverable illnesses there, and the "cure" rate is actually slightly lower than the statistical probability of remission as a larger sample. So people going to Lourdes actually slightly hurt their chances of recovery (I jest about that last part, but you get my point). Of course, if I had some illness, went to Lourdes, prayed and was healed, I'd be hard pushed to take into account sample size, statistics and all that other scientific mumbo-jumbo, and be praising da lord
It's like the old Lourdes thing - people only recover from recoverable illnesses there, and the "cure" rate is actually slightly lower than the statistical probability of remission as a larger sample. So people going to Lourdes actually slightly hurt their chances of recovery (I jest about that last part, but you get my point). Of course, if I had some illness, went to Lourdes, prayed and was healed, I'd be hard pushed to take into account sample size, statistics and all that other scientific mumbo-jumbo, and be praising da lord
I’m not a God follower and don’t know what Soovy’s views are, although I have an idea where he is coming from.
They way I look at it is that whilst I don’t for one second believe some bloke took out the modelling clay and thought “what can I do this week?” I’m not happy that when you take the Big Bang theory back to basics you still have to ask, “So what created the primeval atom?”
There’s a lot we don’t understand and most likely never will. In darker intellectual times the only way that people could explain something they didn’t understand was to create a myth to explain it – sea monsters, sun gods, history is littered with examples. The best one being a white haired old bloke with a nasty temper and a love of apples.
Just because I don’t think that that is the right explanation doesn’t mean there isn’t one that is right.
So all we really know is that we don’t know the answer and rather than adopt an image I personally believe is wrong it is better to adopt an all encompassing term which was designed in the first place to cover all beliefs, a grant architect.
Be most excellent to each other.
They way I look at it is that whilst I don’t for one second believe some bloke took out the modelling clay and thought “what can I do this week?” I’m not happy that when you take the Big Bang theory back to basics you still have to ask, “So what created the primeval atom?”
There’s a lot we don’t understand and most likely never will. In darker intellectual times the only way that people could explain something they didn’t understand was to create a myth to explain it – sea monsters, sun gods, history is littered with examples. The best one being a white haired old bloke with a nasty temper and a love of apples.
Just because I don’t think that that is the right explanation doesn’t mean there isn’t one that is right.
So all we really know is that we don’t know the answer and rather than adopt an image I personally believe is wrong it is better to adopt an all encompassing term which was designed in the first place to cover all beliefs, a grant architect.
Be most excellent to each other.
1 billion people praying and one prayee gets better several years later. Well, I'm convinced.
Of course if one was idiotic enough to consider that a dead pope can perform miracles, you have to ask what he has against the other 50 million people who haven't got better who he obviously couldn't be arsed to help, the miserable sod.
Of course if one was idiotic enough to consider that a dead pope can perform miracles, you have to ask what he has against the other 50 million people who haven't got better who he obviously couldn't be arsed to help, the miserable sod.
Soovy said:
theboyfold said:
Soovy said:
I believe in a divine architect.
I don't believe in an organisation called the Church.
That's not something I would expect to see you write.I don't believe in an organisation called the Church.
This is a genuine question, what do you believe this 'divine architect' to be?
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