Colin McRae Fatal accident enquiry - Errr why ??
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I get the impression that the AAIB investigation would have discovered any obvious mechanical failures, so I'm comfortable the safety of the machine is assured. Any further inquiries that are solely for the purpose of insurers/bean counters fighting over who pays compensation should be paid for by them, not the tax payer.
fluffnik said:
A jolly went tragically wrong, entirely independent of the paperwork.
Up to date paperwork would have done nothing to stop the accident.
All things considered I'd rather live in a world lacking paperwork than one short of jollies...
Perhaps it indicated an atitude. Atitude causes more avoidable accidents than anything else.Up to date paperwork would have done nothing to stop the accident.
All things considered I'd rather live in a world lacking paperwork than one short of jollies...
edition said:
I think it's all too easy to make judgements after an event. How many times in life have you wished you hadnt just done that.
He didn't go out there to kill his own son...... Very silly thing to do and is awful but were only human.
What, flown a helociopter recklessley into trees - hmmmm - let me think.He didn't go out there to kill his own son...... Very silly thing to do and is awful but were only human.
No, can't recall ever doing that.
Eric Mc said:
fluffnik said:
A jolly went tragically wrong, entirely independent of the paperwork.
Up to date paperwork would have done nothing to stop the accident.
All things considered I'd rather live in a world lacking paperwork than one short of jollies...
Perhaps it indicated an atitude. Atitude causes more avoidable accidents than anything else.Up to date paperwork would have done nothing to stop the accident.
All things considered I'd rather live in a world lacking paperwork than one short of jollies...
The double standards of PH are alive and well in this thread though...
edition said:
I think it's all too easy to make judgements after an event. How many times in life have you wished you hadnt just done that.
He didn't go out there to kill his own son...... Very silly thing to do and is awful but were only human.
So a little scrote from where ever drives his uninsured car without a license, crashes killing three people in the process.He didn't go out there to kill his own son...... Very silly thing to do and is awful but were only human.
Would we then say - well, we've all done it and it's easy top make a judgement after the event?
No we wouldn't, we'd be saying the little scrote deserved it and it's one less to worry about.......it's no different.
To suggest it's Very silly thing to do and is awful but were only human is having a laugh.
There are some machines and hobbies in this life that deserve utmost respect. Boxes with blades turning around on top are probably at the top of that list, and to fly without a license and insurance isn't silly, it's absolutely mental.
It's not as if he didn't have the money, he thought he was above the law and took his chances. If he hadn't had a crash then, when was he going to and would it be on a housing estate, or a busy road - would that just be 'silly'?
Eric Mc said:
edition said:
I think it's all too easy to make judgements after an event. How many times in life have you wished you hadnt just done that.
He didn't go out there to kill his own son...... Very silly thing to do and is awful but were only human.
What, flown a helociopter recklessley into trees - hmmmm - let me think.He didn't go out there to kill his own son...... Very silly thing to do and is awful but were only human.
No, can't recall ever doing that.
Derek Smith said:
HoHoHo said:
. . . he thought he was above the law . . .
I, unfortunately, never knew the bloke as well as you obviously did. I spoke with him once but not long enough to know the inner workings of his mind.Simples.
HoHoHo said:
The bloke is a complete cock and deserves no sympathy.
To take the lives of three people in the fashion he did is unforgivable.
RIP the passengers.
Colin, you deserve everything you got.
Quite agree. Always thought he was a bit of a cock and this report proves that whatever the apologists think.To take the lives of three people in the fashion he did is unforgivable.
RIP the passengers.
Colin, you deserve everything you got.
Eric Mc said:
fluffnik said:
All things considered I'd rather live in a world lacking paperwork than one short of jollies...
Perhaps it indicated an atitude. Atitude causes more avoidable accidents than anything else.It seems he was every bit as much a yeeharr pilot as driver.
The lack of currency on his licence was not down to lack of flying it was down to lack of form filling - I don't think anyone has suggested that he'd have failed to get his licence signed off had he sought out a check flight...
fluffnik said:
A jolly went tragically wrong, entirely independent of the paperwork.
Up to date paperwork would have done nothing to stop the accident.
You can't be 100% sure of that.Up to date paperwork would have done nothing to stop the accident.
It's possible that had he might not have had his type rating approved had he attempted to 'do the right thing' regarding the paperwork (especially given his past regarding this) It's possible that several scenarios might have happened as a result that meant he would not have been able to fly the helo had he attempted to fulfil his obligations as a pilot. Any possible combination of these events might have meant he would not have been allowed to continue to fly.....and so therefore not have killed 3 other people.
wolves_wanderer said:
Most people on a first time in a helicopter just love the experience, there is no need outside of cocking about to do the low level stuff.
AFAIK they'd all flown with him before.wolves_wanderer said:
The double standards of PH are alive and well in this thread though...
Hooning is good, except in helicopters...
aeropilot said:
fluffnik said:
A jolly went tragically wrong, entirely independent of the paperwork.
Up to date paperwork would have done nothing to stop the accident.
You can't be 100% sure of that.Up to date paperwork would have done nothing to stop the accident.
It's possible that had he might not have had his type rating approved had he attempted to 'do the right thing' regarding the paperwork (especially given his past regarding this) It's possible that several scenarios might have happened as a result that meant he would not have been able to fly the helo had he attempted to fulfil his obligations as a pilot. Any possible combination of these events might have meant he would not have been allowed to continue to fly.....and so therefore not have killed 3 other people.
HoHoHo said:
There are some machines and hobbies in this life that deserve utmost respect. Boxes with blades turning around on top are probably at the top of that list, and to fly without a license and insurance isn't silly, it's absolutely mental.
A good point well made. I am a very keen clay shooter, been shooting for 20 years. And you will never ever see me take a gun out of a sling before I have broken it open and checked it is safe.The number of "experienced" and "good" shooters who flout this fundamental rule still shocks me. It's the supposedly "good" people who do - and they're the ones who end up blowing someones head off by accident.
On the flipside, I had the pleasure to shoot with a very senior member of the royal family, and his safety was exemplary, despite him being very close to the throne.
Play by the rules. Always. I don't give a tuppeny toss who you are. Wehn you're shooting/flying/racing the people with class never ever forget the basic obligations and the consequences of being too big for one's boots.
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