Welsh Referendum
Discussion
BoRED S2upid said:
I voted Yes as it seems did the rest of those who bothered to vote. Very suprised it was such a Yes vote some were expecting solid No votes, seems the Welsh dont trust the English to make decisions for us.
Time to get rid of Welsh MPs in Westminster, then. I'd vote for that.rich1231 said:
BoRED S2upid said:
I voted Yes as it seems did the rest of those who bothered to vote. Very suprised it was such a Yes vote some were expecting solid No votes, seems the Welsh dont trust the English to make decisions for us.
You trust us to pay for everything though.
ZOLLAR said:
Yes won 
, seems only Monmouthshire vote majority NO,
yes = 12,381 49.4
no = 12,701 50.6
Turnout = 35.4%
It seems to me that a referendum seeking a definite answer should require a majority decision by the population, not of the turn out. At the least there should be a minimum turnout specified for the referendum to be quorate. If only 30% of the people could be bothered to go and vote, the decision is carried on the wishes of 15% of the population., seems only Monmouthshire vote majority NO,yes = 12,381 49.4
no = 12,701 50.6
Turnout = 35.4%
tank slapper said:
It seems to me that a referendum seeking a definite answer should require a majority decision by the population, not of the turn out. At the least there should be a minimum turnout specified for the referendum to be quorate. If only 30% of the people could be bothered to go and vote, the decision is carried on the wishes of 15% of the population.
Again, kind of the point I was raising earlier...though I was going off on one at the MPs 
I'm with you though...unless a majority turnout is achieved the legislation should not be passed. If a majority turnout is not achieved, it should be assumed that that's because people are happy with the way things are (essentially not turning out is a vote for 'no').
pits said:
Voted No as really only an idiot would vote yes, voting yes has basically put Labour in charge of Wales.
Hmmmm wonder if us lot in Monmouthshire can defect to England and leave Wales to hopefully crumble and descend into financial chaos.
I heard that you Monmouthshirians consider yourself English anyway Hmmmm wonder if us lot in Monmouthshire can defect to England and leave Wales to hopefully crumble and descend into financial chaos.
As far as I can see this referendum was a classic example of offering a choice without lots of benefits and no responsibility.
We are making fundamental constitutional errors in allowing higher standards of living in Wales and indeed Scotland than the economies of either locality(NOT countries) can actually sustain.
Its just like giving free prescriptions etc to Oxfordshire whilst everywhere else gets nothing.
Hardly surprising the Welsh voted for having a better standard of living than the rest of the UK. AT NO COST.
This has to stop.
There are enough divisions in the UK without making more.
Make the Scottish Parliament and the Welsh Parliament sole responsibility of those localities WITHOUT the massive UK subsidies they are getting.
I think the attitude would soon change once the individuals concerned had to actually pay for their own largesse.
Its the free subsidy that is wrong it offers benefits without cost which are undemocratic, unfair, divisive and wrong.
We are making fundamental constitutional errors in allowing higher standards of living in Wales and indeed Scotland than the economies of either locality(NOT countries) can actually sustain.
Its just like giving free prescriptions etc to Oxfordshire whilst everywhere else gets nothing.
Hardly surprising the Welsh voted for having a better standard of living than the rest of the UK. AT NO COST.
This has to stop.
There are enough divisions in the UK without making more.
Make the Scottish Parliament and the Welsh Parliament sole responsibility of those localities WITHOUT the massive UK subsidies they are getting.
I think the attitude would soon change once the individuals concerned had to actually pay for their own largesse.
Its the free subsidy that is wrong it offers benefits without cost which are undemocratic, unfair, divisive and wrong.
pits said:
Voted No as really only an idiot would vote yes, voting yes has basically put Labour in charge of Wales.
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But if that is what the local population wants, so be it..
I didn't have a vote, but would have voted yes if given the chance, because I think Britain is far too centralised. Ideally regions large enough to be independently viable should have as much power devolved to them as an american state.
anonymous said:
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The overfunding is a fixed amount, ending perscription charges does not increase the grant from the centre to compensate.The welsh assembly should receive a grant from the centre that reflects their spending needs, calculated on the same basis as the rest of the country, and then should set their own spending and tax priorities.
JagLover said:
The overfunding is a fixed amount, ending perscription charges does not increase the grant from the centre to compensate.
The welsh assembly should receive a grant from the centre that reflects their spending needs, calculated on the same basis as the rest of the country, and then should set their own spending and tax priorities.
Spending needs?The welsh assembly should receive a grant from the centre that reflects their spending needs, calculated on the same basis as the rest of the country, and then should set their own spending and tax priorities.
I need 20 Zonda's doesnt mean I can afford them.
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