"Why is there no looting in Japan" - interesting comments!!

"Why is there no looting in Japan" - interesting comments!!

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johnfm

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13,668 posts

251 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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Apart from the fact that there is virtually nothing to loot except tonnes of destroyed timber and car, there is an interesting social question.

BUT, this article really has drawn out an incredible bunch of racialists!!

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/edwest/100079703...

Mr_B

10,480 posts

244 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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100,000 troops plus Police. Add the fact that you can go a mile inland of the affected areas and there is normality. As bad as it is,most of the country is untouched and is more than capable of feeding and providing shelter,so large numbers of people won't be living in homes made from debris awaiting help as in some other cases of disater.
Oh, yeah I do think they are simply more respectful people than other countries - UK included.

Puggit

48,481 posts

249 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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Anna Botting at Sky News said some people had been down to an previous car showroom next to the coast to scavenge for petrol.

I'm not sure where the line is between scavenging and looting - but I can understand why anyone would do this.

Soovy

35,829 posts

272 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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The Japanese have some honour as a rule.


Eric Mc

122,058 posts

266 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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If it's a third world country - it's looting.

If it's a developed country - its struggling to survive.

Balmoral Green

40,943 posts

249 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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Did you see the wrecked supermarket, all the glass front missing, shelves all over the place, with the tray from the till on a chair and being used as an honesty box, and people queuing to put their money in it and taking change?

Eric Mc

122,058 posts

266 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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Balmoral Green said:
Did you see the wrecked supermarket, all the glass front missing, shelves all over the place, with the tray from the till on a chair and being used as an honesty box, and people queuing to put their money in it and taking change?
Are you sure that's what they were doing?

just me

5,964 posts

221 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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Eric Mc said:
Are you sure that's what they were doing?
Yes, absolutely. Ever been to Japan?

just me

5,964 posts

221 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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Eric Mc said:
If it's a third world country - it's looting.

If it's a developed country - its struggling to survive.
Um, no. If it's people taking what they need to survive, and nothing more, it's scavenging. If it's people taking off with LED TVs and computers and cars, it's looting. I can see people needing petrol, but PS2s (New Orleans) are not really needed for survival, especially when the electricity has gone out.

Eric Mc

122,058 posts

266 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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just me said:
Eric Mc said:
If it's a third world country - it's looting.

If it's a developed country - its struggling to survive.
Um, no. If it's people taking what they need to survive, and nothing more, it's scavenging. If it's people taking off with LED TVs and computers and cars, it's looting. I can see people needing petrol, but PS2s (New Orleans) are not really needed for survival, especially when the electricity has gone out.
I think the poorer the population, the more likely you are going to see "looting" - although the media often reports looting when looting actually wan't what was going on. There is a fair amount of inbuilt prejudice in the way reports are made, sometimes.

just me

5,964 posts

221 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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Eric Mc said:
I think the poorer the population, the more likely you are going to see "looting" - although the media often reports looting when looting actually wan't what was going on. There is a fair amount of inbuilt prejudice in the way reports are made, sometimes.
Studies have shown that it's not outright poverty as much as cultural values and the general perception of how fairly or unfairly people have been treated that leads to them committing dishonest acts.

carmonk

7,910 posts

188 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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No surprise. The Japanese are a very dignified and civilised bunch. Very closed-minded when it comes to foreigners, not easy to be accepted even if you've lived there for years, but that's perfectly reasonable when you consider the size of their country and the success they've had with that outlook. Something we in the UK should emulate IMO.

just me

5,964 posts

221 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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There are wonderful, amazing elements in Japanese culture and society that we could all learn from and should emulate, yes.

Ethnocentrism, however, is not one of them.

Soovy

35,829 posts

272 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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just me said:
There are wonderful, amazing elements in Japanese culture and society that we could all learn from and should emulate, yes.

Ethnocentrism, however, is not one of them.
Cobblers.

Having spent time in Tokyo I can tell you that they welcome foreigners with open arms and a graciousness and generosity I have never seen anywhere else. But Japan is for the Japanese people, and they allow you into their home most graciously.

If you fk about, you're out. And so you should be.

We could learn a lot from them.



Turbo5

594 posts

212 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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"Why is there no looting in Japan" - interesting comments!!

a couple of reasons really
1) Distance from Liverpool to Sapporo : 5452.1 Miles

( 8774.3 Kilometers / 4734.6 Nautical Miles )
therefore too far for the white vans
2) Easyjet don't fly there
laugh

Soovy

35,829 posts

272 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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Turbo5 said:
"Why is there no looting in Japan" - interesting comments!!

a couple of reasons really
1) Distance from Liverpool to Sapporo : 5452.1 Miles

( 8774.3 Kilometers / 4734.6 Nautical Miles )
therefore too far for the white vans


2) Easyjet don't fly there


laugh
Genius.


just me

5,964 posts

221 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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Soovy said:
Cobblers.

Having spent time in Tokyo I can tell you that they welcome foreigners with open arms and a graciousness and generosity I have never seen anywhere else. But Japan is for the Japanese people, and they allow you into their home most graciously.

If you fk about, you're out. And so you should be.

We could learn a lot from them.
I have spent time in Japan too. It's not cobblers. I agree they can be very gracious, and there are many things about Japanese culture that should be emulated by the rest of the world. There is also ethnocentrism there. I have American friends married to Japanese citizens who can tell you hellish stories. There is plenty of documented evidence as well.

I agree with the sentiment that if you fk about, you should be out. And that we could learn a lot from them. But if you don't fk about, you shouldn't be treated poorly for no reason. Plenty of that does happen too.

Oakey

27,593 posts

217 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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Why is there no looting?

I'd imagine stealing a salt drenched LCD TV would be utterly pointless conisdering your home has been washed away and your source of power is going into Meltdown.

Brighton Derly

597 posts

160 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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I don't want to come across as criticising the Japanese, but they do seem a bit... well, 'robotic'. (In a Stepford Wives kind of way.)

Edited by Brighton Derly on Monday 14th March 20:36

shouldbworking

4,769 posts

213 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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just me said:
There are wonderful, amazing elements in Japanese culture and society that we could all learn from and should emulate, yes.

Ethnocentrism, however, is not one of them.
Nor is tentacle porn or rapelay.

All the Japanese people I've met have been lovely, but the stuff that exists out there and apparently has a market for it boggles my mind.