Meanwhile, In Syria

[Globs]

Liokault said:

Globs said:

So personally I see Assad as another Saddam and another Gaddafi, people who made their countries good places to live in

So many LOL's in your whole post, but I have picked out this particular bit for the sheer "alternative facts" scale of BS invoked.

So what do you think is better about Iraq, Libya and Syria today, than before we attacked them?

[Globs]

Cobnapint said:

Oh sure. I'll forward you the photos somebody working at the Syrian air base showed me of the sarin bombs being loaded onto the jets..

I didn't realise you could analyse a gas by looking at the casings. You're in the wrong job.
As there have been no sarin attacks in Syria can you tell me where these aircraft dropped them?
Also as the US Navy destroyed them all - can you explain where they came from?

Additionally Assad and the Syrian's are being attacked by well financed terrorists and are subject to constant threats against him: could you please explain why he'd suddenly decide that gassing his own people was a good idea?
I.e. what would Assad's motive be to attack his own people who are helping him and Syria fight for it's life and existence?

I'm just not seeing and logic with the gas stories - what am I missing here?

[Likes Fast Cars]

Globs said:

Liokault said:

Globs said:

So personally I see Assad as another Saddam and another Gaddafi, people who made their countries good places to live in

So many LOL's in your whole post, but I have picked out this particular bit for the sheer "alternative facts" scale of BS invoked.

So what do you think is better about Iraq, Libya and Syria today, than before we attacked them?

Most of the current problems in these countries are not caused by be "attacked" by "us" (whoever you mean by your reference to "we") but by internal conflicts and religious territorial pissing competitions. It has become convenient to blame "the west" or other selected "interests" for the problems.

There are regional players (e.g. Reg boy in Turkey) hell-bent on ousting neighbouring regimes on the basis of incompatible religious doctrine (or rather, dogma to be more precise).

Unfortunately for al-Assad he has been a sponsor of terrorism and it has now ironically come back to bite him ion the arse, deserved in his case. It is however the many innocent civilians for whom I feel sorry.

[scherzkeks]

clonmult said:

scherzkeks said:

Cobnapint said:

Assad has been lying for so long now he does it without thinking.

Same goes for his supporter. The one who chose to condemn the US reprisal attack on the Syrian air base, rather than the one that left those kids and families gasping for breath.

For them, the lie 'is' the truth.

Prove it.

Oh, you have no proof. That's right.

And where is your proof of Assad being honest and truthful?

Oh, you have no proof of that either!!!

The burden of proof rests with the individual making the claim.

Show proof (this is, of course, rhetorical as you have none).

[Liokault]

scherzkeks said:

clonmult said:

scherzkeks said:

Cobnapint said:

Assad has been lying for so long now he does it without thinking.

Same goes for his supporter. The one who chose to condemn the US reprisal attack on the Syrian air base, rather than the one that left those kids and families gasping for breath.

For them, the lie 'is' the truth.

Prove it.

Oh, you have no proof. That's right.

And where is your proof of Assad being honest and truthful?

Oh, you have no proof of that either!!!

The burden of proof rests with the individual making the claim.

Show proof (this is, of course, rhetorical as you have none).

I think the bigger claim is that Assad didn’t do this. Outside of Russia and a few apologists in the west, its accepted that Assad gassed his own people.

[scherzkeks]

Liokault said:

scherzkeks said:

clonmult said:

scherzkeks said:

Cobnapint said:

Assad has been lying for so long now he does it without thinking.

Same goes for his supporter. The one who chose to condemn the US reprisal attack on the Syrian air base, rather than the one that left those kids and families gasping for breath.

For them, the lie 'is' the truth.

Prove it.

Oh, you have no proof. That's right.

And where is your proof of Assad being honest and truthful?

Oh, you have no proof of that either!!!

The burden of proof rests with the individual making the claim.

Show proof (this is, of course, rhetorical as you have none).

I think the bigger claim is that Assad didn’t do this. Outside of Russia and a few apologists in the west, its accepted that Assad gassed his own people.

That isn't the claim. The claim is that he did it.

The counterpoint is that there is no evidence, nor a logical motive.

Provide concrete evidence to support your hysterical claim.

[Bibbs]

And isn't it weird, how ISIS don't have 'chemical weapons' .. except when they do (and I know it's Mustard vs Sarin).

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/australians-hit-b...

DT said:

AN Iraqi military unit containing Australian and US military advisors have been caught up in a chemical gas attack reportedly carried out by Islamic State.

[QuantumTokoloshi]

The ISIS death cult terrorists are becoming "moderate rebels" again.

Just the kind of people you want to supply with weapons, training and logistics.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-14/isis-comm...

[scherzkeks]

QuantumTokoloshi said:

The ISIS death cult terrorists are becoming "moderate rebels" again.

Just the kind of people you want to supply with weapons, training and logistics.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-14/isis-comm...

Depends on your objectives.

[bobbylondonuk]

This is very simple. "We" are fking around in some one else's play ground. "We" want the current big boy out of there. "We" will do whatever it takes and however long it takes.

All dead people are Big Boy's fault because he didnt get out of the play ground when "We" told him to.

Thats how "We" roll bhes!


Who "We", "We" be the boys who go around all over the world preaching democracy and installing puppets who buy our stuff from our companies with debt that our banks provide those puppet governments to increase the consumption power of their populations.


Right now Saddam & Assad told us to ps off when "We" wanted to run the Qatari pipeline through their playground via Turkey and into EU. "We" wanted that so that Russia can be weakended & EU can be out of an energy lock from Putin.

Nobody tells "We" to ps off....

[Zod]

Question for the Assad apologists:

Is Amnesty International a patsy for the US neocons?

[frankenstein12]

Zod said:

Question for the Assad apologists:

Is Amnesty International a patsy for the US neocons?

Very few are independant. Almost all have links both via funding and people placement.

http://www.ngo-monitor.org/reports/breaking_its_ow...

[Liokault]

scherzkeks said:

Liokault said:

scherzkeks said:

clonmult said:

scherzkeks said:

Cobnapint said:

Assad has been lying for so long now he does it without thinking.

Same goes for his supporter. The one who chose to condemn the US reprisal attack on the Syrian air base, rather than the one that left those kids and families gasping for breath.

For them, the lie 'is' the truth.

Prove it.

Oh, you have no proof. That's right.

And where is your proof of Assad being honest and truthful?

Oh, you have no proof of that either!!!

The burden of proof rests with the individual making the claim.

Show proof (this is, of course, rhetorical as you have none).

I think the bigger claim is that Assad didn’t do this. Outside of Russia and a few apologists in the west, its accepted that Assad gassed his own people.

That isn't the claim. The claim is that he did it.

The counterpoint is that there is no evidence, nor a logical motive.

Provide concrete evidence to support your hysterical claim.

He didn't claim he did it (although obviousely we all know Assad did do it). He nearly claimed aassad is a liar.

The standards in the St Petersburg school of Miss Information and General Bullst are slipping.

[QuantumTokoloshi]

Zod said:

Question for the Assad apologists:

Is Amnesty International a patsy for the US neocons?

Question for the Neo Con disciples:

Can you tell the "moderate Rebels" from the Death Cult ISIS evil terrorists ?

[Liokault]

QuantumTokoloshi said:

Zod said:

Question for the Assad apologists:

Is Amnesty International a patsy for the US neocons?

Question for the Neo Con disciples:

Can you tell the "moderate Rebels" from the Death Cult ISIS evil terrorists ?

Let me guess, the Death Cult ISIS scum are everyone opposed to Assad (what a nice guy btw)...am I doing this right comrade?

[scherzkeks]

Liokault said:

QuantumTokoloshi said:

Zod said:

Question for the Assad apologists:

Is Amnesty International a patsy for the US neocons?

Question for the Neo Con disciples:

Can you tell the "moderate Rebels" from the Death Cult ISIS evil terrorists ?

Let me guess, the Death Cult ISIS scum are everyone opposed to Assad (what a nice guy btw)...am I doing this right comrade?

Provide proof that Assad was behind the gas attack.

Thanks.

[QuantumTokoloshi]

Liokault said:

QuantumTokoloshi said:

Zod said:

Question for the Assad apologists:

Is Amnesty International a patsy for the US neocons?

Question for the Neo Con disciples:

Can you tell the "moderate Rebels" from the Death Cult ISIS evil terrorists ?

Let me guess, the Death Cult ISIS scum are everyone opposed to Assad (what a nice guy btw)...am I doing this right comrade?

You logic is pitch perfect for a Neo con, simplify to the absurd, and make world changing decisions on it.

Edited by QuantumTokoloshi on Wednesday 17th May 10:30

[Globs]

Liokault said:

..am I doing this right comrade?

Your implication that anyone who opposes arming terrorists and murderers is a communist is bizarre.

The Kremlin opposes arming terrorists and murderers, but so does The Pope, your mother, all decent people;- and so should you. You are making the odd choice to side with the neocons and promote war and killing, but you must surely realise that to them you are nothing, mere expendable collateral ?

BTW Russia is no longer communist. That stopped when they escaped from the USSR. Your ignorance of history is colouring your judgement; apparently to such a degree that you now support our, and your own enemies.

[Liokault]

Globs said:

Liokault said:

..am I doing this right comrade?

Your implication that anyone who opposes arming terrorists and murderers is a communist is bizarre.

The Kremlin opposes arming terrorists and murderers, but so does The Pope, your mother, all decent people;- and so should you. You are making the odd choice to side with the neocons and promote war and killing, but you must surely realise that to them you are nothing, mere expendable collateral ?

BTW Russia is no longer communist. That stopped when they escaped from the USSR. Your ignorance of history is colouring your judgement; apparently to such a degree that you now support our, and your own enemies.

Can I point you to this link, read it, and remember where this started:

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

It wasn’t a war against terrorists, its Assad imprisoning school kids, then shooting their parents when they protest the arrests..

I find it massivly ironic that people on page one are berating the USA for not getting involved "because theres no oil".

Also, I'm fully aware that Russia is no longer communist (its de-facto Tsarist once more), I have travelled in Russia fairly extensively and spent way too many days in St Petersburg. I'm alluding to the clear fact that at least two people (or two profiles) (i'll let you guess who) are sitting in a suburb of St Petersburg being paid by the state to put out pro Putin agiprop. I see no other explanation for being so anti west so pro Putin, so in denial of anything bad that Russia could possibly have done, so ready to put a pro Russia anti west spin on EVERYTHING.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_brigades

Edited by Liokault on Wednesday 17th May 17:14

[Cobnapint]

Liokault said:

Can I point you to this link, read it, and remember where this started:

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

It wasn’t a war against terrorists, its Assad imprisoning school kids, then shooting their parents when they protest the arrests..

I find it massivly ironic that people on page one are berating the USA for not getting involved "because theres no oil".

Also, I'm fully aware that Russia is no longer communist (its de-facto Tsarist once more), I have travelled in Russia fairly extensively and spent way too many days in St Petersburg. I'm alluding to the clear fact that at least two people (or two profiles) (i'll let you guess who) are sitting in a suburb of St Petersburg being paid by the state to put out pro Putin agiprop. I see no other explanation for being so anti west so pro Putin, so in denial of anything bad that Russia could possibly have done, so ready to put a pro Russia anti west spin on EVERYTHING.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_brigades

The RT brigade.