Meanwhile, In Syria

[anonymous-user]

Digga said:

Despite the MSM hysteria, which would have us belive most of Syria is currently camped out in Calais, waiting to enter the UK - legally or otherwise - there are still thousands of innocent civilians living in Syria.

MSM hysteria? What the BBC got an anti-refugee agenda now? I think you need to make it clear you're referring to a couple of newspapers and NOT the whole MSM as you're trying to imply.

[aeropilot]

Murph7355 said:

You can't beat ideologies like IS in the same way you would traditional enemies. I think (hope) even the US have learnt that.

Not a hope the USA have learnt that, or likely ever will, as in many respects a significant proportion of the population of the USA are just as 'extreme' in their religious views as IS.

[BlackLabel]

IS suicide bomber kills 4 Americans in Syria.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-46892...

Someone should tell Mike Pence.

“Mike Pence has claimed that the Islamic State group has been defeated - on the same day of an apparent suicide bombing in Syria that killed American soldiers.
The US vice-president didn't mention the attack in Manbij during his speech.”

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-4690...

[grumbledoak]

BlackLabel said:

IS suicide bomber kills 4 Americans in Syria.

Manbij is a Kurd held area. Who wants the US to stay in Syria? Cui bono?

[QuantumTokoloshi]

grumbledoak said:

BlackLabel said:

IS suicide bomber kills 4 Americans in Syria.

Manbij is a Kurd held area. Who wants the US to stay in Syria? Cui bono?

it is all coincidental. Totally unrelated.

We have had many remarkable coincidences in this war, such as with chemical weapons usage conveniently happening at the just the right time, to drag the US into the war, with video coverage provided by the totally neutral white helmets. It could not have been timed better, but it was of course, only coincidence.

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[BlackLabel]

The Israelis aren't messing around.

"Syria war: Israeli jets target Iranian positions around Damascus"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-46941...

Iran hits back with its usual comical Ali style rhetoric.

"Iranian air chief: ‘We’re ready for the decisive war that will destroy Israel’"

https://www.timesofisrael.com/iranian-air-chief-we...

[Countdown]

I wonder what our reaction would be if the Russians decided to bomb NATO troops currently based in Estonia.....

[QuantumTokoloshi]

BlackLabel said:

The Israelis aren't messing around.

"Syria war: Israeli jets target Iranian positions around Damascus"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-46941...

Iran hits back with its usual comical Ali style rhetoric.

"Iranian air chief: ‘We’re ready for the decisive war that will destroy Israel’"

https://www.timesofisrael.com/iranian-air-chief-we...

Hit several Pantsir-s1 systems in the strikes too. Video shows missiles being launched from AA system as the SEAD weapons are guided in.

https://defence-blog.com/army/israel-targeted-seve...

[BlackLabel]

Let’s hope these are the good White Helmets and not the head chopping variety.


Some 100 volunteers and family members from the Syria White Helmets civil defence group have been resettled in the UK, the Home Office has confirmed.

[grumbledoak]

I am sure they will be model citizens.

[Cobnapint]

So much for the faked CW attacks by the WH. Sounds like the Russians didn't clean up properly before allowing the OPCW into Douma.

https://www.opcw.org/media-centre/news/2019/03/opc...

[grumbledoak]

Full document here if anyone wants to dig for themselves:
https://www.opcw.org/sites/default/files/documents...

[QuantumTokoloshi]

grumbledoak said:

Full document here if anyone wants to dig for themselves:
https://www.opcw.org/sites/default/files/documents...

Intersting commentary on the report.

"Many of the signs and symptoms reported by the medical personnel, witnesses and casualties (as well as those seen in multiple videos provided by witnesses), their rapid onset, and the large number of those reportedly affected, indicate exposure to an inhalation irritant or toxic substance. However, based on the information reviewed and with the absence of biomedical samples from the dead bodies or any autopsy records, it is not currently possible to precisely link the cause of the signs and symptoms to a specific chemical"

Not quite "the regime definitely did it" narrative.

"number of the interviewed medical staff who were purportedly present in the emergency department on 7 April emphasised that the presentation of the casualties was not consistent with that expected from a chemical attack. They also reported not having experience in the treatment of casualties of chemical weapons. Some interviewees stated that no odour emanated from the patients, while other witnesses declared that they perceived a smell of smoke on the patients’ clothes."

Likewise,

"Some witnesses stated that many people died in the hospital on 7 April as result of the heavy shelling and/or suffocation due to inhalation of smoke and dust. As many as 50 bodies were lying on the floor of the emergency department awaiting burial. Others stated that there were no fatalities in Douma Hospital on 7 April and that no bodies were brought to the hospital that day."

and,

"Although the team confirmed the presence of a yellow cylinder in the warehouse, reported in Note Verbale of the Syrian Arab Republic (Annex 10, point 2) as a chlorine cylinder, due to safety reasons (risk involved in manipulating the valve of the cylinder, see Figure A.8.2) it was not feasible to verify or sample the contents. There were differences in this cylinder compared to those witnessed at Locations 2 and 4. It should be noted that the cylinder was present in its original state and had not been altered. "

Not quite the "SAA and the Russians did it" narrative, there is no appropriation in the report.

[Cobnapint]

They weren't there to say who did it, they were there to find if chlorine gas was used - and it was. This puts paid to the fake stories about a faked chemical attack acted out by the white helmets.

The Russians had 11 days to clear the place of genuine witnesses and trace elements before 'allowing' the OPCW in, so the investigators did well in the circumstances.

Of course, Russia doesn't like the findings.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/sputniknews.com/amp/m...

[QuantumTokoloshi]

A new book about the Clandestine war in Syria, from a French perspective.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-22/how-cia-...

[markjmd]

QuantumTokoloshi said:

A new book about the Clandestine war in Syria, from a French Russian perspective.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-22/how-cia-...

Fixed that for you.

[QuantumTokoloshi]

markjmd said:

QuantumTokoloshi said:

A new book about the Clandestine war in Syria, from a French Russian perspective.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-22/how-cia-...

Fixed that for you.

How Is that exactly? It is quite a balanced article, with referenced articles etc.

It might surprise you, but the West was supporting anti Assad Islamic fundamentalists in Syria, Al Nusta and co. That not really breaking news anymore.

[andy_s]

QuantumTokoloshi said:

How Is that exactly? It is quite a balanced article, with referenced articles etc.

It might surprise you, but the West was supporting anti Assad Islamic fundamentalists in Syria, Al Nusta and co. That not really breaking news anymore.

Agree, highly unlikely though it may seem for us to back the wrong horse in the wrong race at the wrong race track, but there you go - 'sometimes these things happen', but we'll be sure not to make the same mistake again, and again, and again...

[grumbledoak]

It's all gone a bit quiet on Syria.

Still, some minor good news:

[Lucas Ayde]

OPCW covered up the fact that the Douma attack was faked:

https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/confirmed-chemi...

Not exactly news that the so called 'poison gas attack' was a fake but still somewhat shocking to see a supposedly trustworthy organisation like the OPCW deliberately cover up their findings to further a narrative.