Christmas fantasy PH share league

Christmas fantasy PH share league

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kiethton

13,917 posts

181 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
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B17NNS said:
Yeah sounds good K, get it set up.
Wicked, I'll get the ball rolling ASAP, just need to escape work and this restrictive browser....

Hopefully be up and running by this evening.

Planning on keeping the same rules aka SD & Trading fees to keep it realistic

Dr Interceptor

7,802 posts

197 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
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kiethton said:
B17NNS said:
Yeah sounds good K, get it set up.
Wicked, I'll get the ball rolling ASAP, just need to escape work and this restrictive browser....

Hopefully be up and running by this evening.

Planning on keeping the same rules aka SD & Trading fees to keep it realistic
That'd be good... be nice to play the long game and hold on to stocks for weeks/months as opposed to days.

DKL

4,498 posts

223 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
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kiethton said:
That was brilliant and thanks again for organising....

Would anybody be interested in another to run from now but over the course of the year? - with it being a little longer people would surely operate as they would in reality?
I'm in. Had Robbie Burn's book for Christmas so I'm ready!
Its all a bit involved though - I had hoped it would be easy wink

DoubleSix

11,718 posts

177 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
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You ought to implement a maximum % in one holding rule. i.e. no more than 15% of portfolio in any one company.

kiethton

13,917 posts

181 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
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That is a fair enough shout but some have higher holdings - would something like 50% be more realistic?

DoubleSix

11,718 posts

177 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
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I don't think 50% really achieves the goal. The idea of a cap is to stop luck becoming too much of a factor in who wins, it should ensure a degree of skill is required to do well.

15% would be considered a LOT for any professional to hold in one position, very rarely done. I appreciate you're only having fun so put the cap where you sit fit but 50% still gives huge scope for the proverbial 'monkey with an FT' to steal the show.

DKL

4,498 posts

223 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
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Equally it would prevent anyone who plans to "day trade" (or 2 day or week) trading as they wish.
Especially with the volatile AIM stuff its high risk, high profit (or loss) if you play that game and you might want to play big and get out fast.
15% would make that all but pointless but it isn't necessarily unskilled.

Dr Interceptor

7,802 posts

197 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
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DoubleSix said:
it should ensure a degree of skill is required to do well.
In other words it just ensures the professionals aren't beaten by a regular chap who gets lucky.

The stock market is open to everyone, no reason why this shouldn't be.

jeff m2

2,060 posts

152 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
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DoubleSix said:
I don't think 50% really achieves the goal. The idea of a cap is to stop luck becoming too much of a factor in who wins, it should ensure a degree of skill is required to do well.

15% would be considered a LOT for any professional to hold in one position, very rarely done. I appreciate you're only having fun so put the cap where you sit fit but 50% still gives huge scope for the proverbial 'monkey with an FT' to steal the show.
But a lot less off the wall than 100% in an AIM stocksmile

15% is only a $1,500 max trade also quite unrealistic for a professional, actually pretty low for an average bargain.

What was wrong with the previous rules, (no rules) it's only a game.

ETA
How about 100K with 15% in one stock that would perhaps approach reality.
My thinking is that a 15% cap on 10K means a lot of money going to commission (as a percentage)

I'm happy to join whatever the rulesbiggrin



Edited by jeff m2 on Thursday 2nd January 16:44

DoubleSix

11,718 posts

177 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
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Dr Interceptor said:
In other words it just ensures the professionals aren't beaten by a regular chap who gets lucky.

The stock market is open to everyone, no reason why this shouldn't be.
rolleyes

Jeez, don't be so chippy!

It's common practice in fantasy share comps to impose a limit on a single holding (whether it be 10, 15, 20% etc) We do it when running comps for newly qualifieds for example. Surely you can follow the logic of why you might wish to do this, beyond your previous cynical assertion?

Edited by DoubleSix on Thursday 2nd January 16:32

Dr Interceptor

7,802 posts

197 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
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DoubleSix said:
Dr Interceptor said:
In other words it just ensures the professionals aren't beaten by a regular chap who gets lucky.

The stock market is open to everyone, no reason why this shouldn't be.
rolleyes

Jeez, don't be so chippy!

It's common practice in fantasy share comps to impose a limit on a single holding (whether it be 10, 15, 20% etc) We do it when running comps for newly qualifieds for example. Surely you can follow the logic of why you might wish to do this, beyond your previous cynical assertion?

Edited by DoubleSix on Thursday 2nd January 16:32
Not being chippy, it just annoys me when competitions do this, as it doesn't mirror the real world.

I can see why... and in practice yes, I don't put all my eggs in one basket most of the time. But sometimes a good tip comes along that you're willing to take a punt on, and might want to gamble a higher holding percentage? I do it in real life, shame not to be able to do it in a competition.





DoubleSix

11,718 posts

177 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
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Ok, well I've no dog in this fight I just wanted to contribute to the thread with what I consider to be a useful suggestion. I'm sure you guys will decide what's right for the PH peeps.

The Jolly Todger

2,742 posts

181 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
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In other news my Christmas Competition portfolio is now in profit. I'm so proud.

kiethton

13,917 posts

181 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
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How about we keep it as it was previously?

It does go to show that people putting their eggs in one basket may get burned and loose everything...but it may just wrk out.

With it being a year as opposed to a month the risks associated with a block punt get a lot larger and should show a lot of people up...thise that avoid it, fair play

kiethton

13,917 posts

181 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
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