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anonymous-user

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55 months

Monday 4th January 2016
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Why are Bitcoins so highly valued? the price just seems over inflated to what it actually is?

iantr

3,384 posts

240 months

Monday 4th January 2016
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The Spruce goose said:
Why are Bitcoins so highly valued? the price just seems over inflated to what it actually is?
How much do you think one should be worth?

If you're sure they are overvalued (and you might be right) then open an account with IG index and take a short position. Any gains will be tax free.

C0ffin D0dger

3,440 posts

146 months

Monday 4th January 2016
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They're only worth the value of the goods that someone is prepared to exchanged with you in return for them. Don't most of these exchanges take place on certain "dark web" sites or do they get used with legitimate businesses as well?

anonymous-user

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55 months

Monday 4th January 2016
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C0ffin D0dger said:
They're only worth the value of the goods that someone is prepared to exchanged with you in return for them. Don't most of these exchanges take place on certain "dark web" sites or do they get used with legitimate businesses as well?
supply and demand would dictate a price, but the creator owns 1 million out of the current 14 million, 7%. 100 people own around a third of all bit coins (including owner). The distribution/spread is not great really, could say price is propped up, and in theory could be a bank run at one point by a high holder that would reduce the bitcoin to worthlessness, considering the anonymity involved, i.e lack of accountability.

I don't see you can view it as a currency, it seems more like a share or commodity. A storage vessel for money that probably wasn't set out they way.

Edited by The Spruce goose on Monday 4th January 18:55

rog007

5,761 posts

225 months

Monday 4th January 2016
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Wot's a bitecoin? wobble

anonymous-user

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55 months

Monday 4th January 2016
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rog007 said:
Wot's a bitecoin? wobble
bitcoin

V8mate

45,899 posts

190 months

Monday 4th January 2016
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rog007 said:
Wot's a bitecoin? wobble

rog007

5,761 posts

225 months

Monday 4th January 2016
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wink

rotarymazda

538 posts

166 months

Tuesday 5th January 2016
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A bitcoin is the result of finding a number where it's hash is less than a threshold. The "hash" is a 1-way mathematical operation that is currently impractical to do in reverse. (otherwise it would be easy to find more).

The more numbers you "hash", the more chances of finding one with the result in the required range.

I've designed chips that generate hashes for cryptographic purposes.

To mine any effectively, you probably need custom accelerators now and a free power source (e.g. University power sockets!).

The hashes have no real value. The anonymous way they can be exchanged (block-chains) is more interesting and where any possible value lies e.g. illegal activities.










rog007

5,761 posts

225 months

Tuesday 5th January 2016
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That sums up why I'm oot!

wobble

Behemoth

2,105 posts

132 months

Tuesday 5th January 2016
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rotarymazda said:
The hashes have no real value. The anonymous way they can be exchanged (block-chains) is more interesting and where any possible value lies e.g. illegal activities.
No money has value until a bunch of people decide to trade with it.

The blockchain is far from anonymous. In fact it contains a complete digital trail that makes it pretty easy to identify what has been spent and by whom. Only the most dedicated and careful user can retain a semblance of anonymity. Hard cash is far more anonymous and useful for naughty people. Transacting into Bitcoin these days requires the same full id processes as you have opening any normal bank account.

anonymous-user

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55 months

Tuesday 5th January 2016
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the more I read up about Bitcoins it is either a Scam/Ponzi scheme or genuine digital currency.

But I just can't get how high the price is, when you look at litecoin etc.. the value is so much higher.

The main reason is I fancy buying a few and hoping they reach 50k in 20 years.. smile

soad

32,928 posts

177 months

Tuesday 5th January 2016
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How much are they then? Google, here I come... type

1 Bitcoin equals
294.97 British Pound

eek

Behemoth

2,105 posts

132 months

Tuesday 5th January 2016
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The Spruce goose said:
But I just can't get how high the price is, when you look at litecoin etc.. the value is so much higher.
It was the original concept and thus has much greater traction, actual usage and infrastructure backing than the me-toos. There are plenty of legit places you can actually buy real stuff & services with Bitcoin. Not the case for the me-toos.