Crypto Currency Thread

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anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 13th September 2017
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buying what though, I mean BTC is still nearly doubled in value in just over a month.

x5x3

2,424 posts

253 months

Wednesday 13th September 2017
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The Spruce goose said:
buying what though, I mean BTC is still nearly doubled in value in just over a month.
£3K is a barrier for me - below that I'll but more.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 13th September 2017
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I think that is quite risky really, for a doubling in price would need a market value of nearly 124 billion usd, which I think even for BTC is massive.

x5x3

2,424 posts

253 months

Wednesday 13th September 2017
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The Spruce goose said:
I think that is quite risky really, for a doubling in price would need a market value of nearly 124 billion usd, which I think even for BTC is massive.
I agree - it is risky but I'll also save the same amount into a terribly boring pension type scheme wink

okgo

38,038 posts

198 months

Thursday 14th September 2017
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Good job I put in an amount I wasn't fussed on losing rofl

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 14th September 2017
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okgo said:
Good job I put in an amount I wasn't fussed on losing rofl
You only lose if you sell.

garylythgoe

806 posts

222 months

Thursday 14th September 2017
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Can anyone explain bitcoin wallets to me?

I.e. if i deposit some money on coinbase, bitpanda, kraken etc, and buy some coins.

Why is that not safe?
Why is a hardware bitcoin wallet thingy any better?

I might be being a n00b, but I just cant get my head around it.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 14th September 2017
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when you buy on coinbase you own an theoretical btc figure amount. if coinbase went bust you would own nothing and try and take them to court. when you have a physical btc address that is your wallet and bank and provided you keep the key secure you lose nothing.

garylythgoe

806 posts

222 months

Thursday 14th September 2017
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So if I buy on any of the platforms above, I could 'virtually' move the money to a place of my own, making it nothing to do with coinbase, bitpanda, kraken etc...?

What about when it comes to selling, do I point the platforms at my 'wallet' or do I transfer the money from my fancy offline/hardware wallet back to the platform itself to sell?

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 14th September 2017
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from a risk point of view buying and selling is the riskiest time. storage of your coins as long as you follow guidelines should secure, eg spread amounts over several addresses, ensure the keys are safe and encrypted and make sure your computer is secure and latest virus/malware.

Buy wherever send to your own address and sleep well. i use electrum but you can decide which is best.

to sell localbitcoins uses escrow type thing for selling (you release once confirmed money in bank) but again the address is local bitcoins so i just send and sell straight away, don't hold any there, same principle on exchanges ( i do hold some but use 2fa and take the risk but try to stick in my own wallet as soon as can)



Edited by The Spruce goose on Thursday 14th September 17:40

Behemoth

2,105 posts

131 months

Thursday 14th September 2017
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garylythgoe said:
Can anyone explain bitcoin wallets to me?

I.e. if i deposit some money on coinbase, bitpanda, kraken etc, and buy some coins.

Why is that not safe?
Why is a hardware bitcoin wallet thingy any better?

I might be being a n00b, but I just cant get my head around it.
You don't need a hardware wallet to own your own coins. It can be a software wallet or even a printed out paper wallet. A wallet is simply any place you store your private key. You can write your private key out with a quill pen on vellum if you really want to.

If you have a private key to the address your coins are stored then you own your own cash. If you don't, then someone else has your cash and that means there's a fairly high risk as none of these places are governed by the same laws as your local bank. Ergo: own your own private keys to your wallet.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 14th September 2017
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so one Chinese exchange has dumped btc, how many others ones will??

If anyone interested in a hedge against BTC Decred is one ive think is very undervalued for the potential it offers.

Edited by The Spruce goose on Thursday 14th September 20:21

bloomen

6,894 posts

159 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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The Spruce goose said:
so one Chinese exchange has dumped btc, how many others ones will??

If anyone interested in a hedge against BTC Decred is one ive think is very undervalued for the potential it offers.

Edited by The Spruce goose on Thursday 14th September 20:21
The other two of the big three, Okcoin and Huobi, are meeting with the PBOC today sometime. They may well be shutting their doors too. A reprieve is conceivable as only BTCC were dealing in ICOs which is what really got the government's goat.

I'm leaning towards them being shut as well so more blood will spill.

Maxf

8,409 posts

241 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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'Stop loss' triggered last night (some bought lower, some higher - so it was a floating average), so I'm effectively out of BTC for now. A bit of a gain after selling my BCC, but pretty even otherwise.

I'll get back in, but once I see how the remaining Chinese exchanges fare. Happy to not be sitting on a loss (I wouldnt have sold in all likelihood) but a little annoyed I didnt take some of my stake out at $5k.

Behemoth

2,105 posts

131 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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Maxf said:
a little annoyed I didnt take some of my stake out at $5k.
You think you can sell when everyone is under fomo & buy when the fud is spread wide? I think it's almost impossible psychologically.

Maxf

8,409 posts

241 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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Behemoth said:
Maxf said:
a little annoyed I didnt take some of my stake out at $5k.
You think you can sell when everyone is under fomo & buy when the fud is spread wide? I think it's almost impossible psychologically.
Fair points and very true.

x5x3

2,424 posts

253 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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be a hodl'r and buy the dip


garylythgoe

806 posts

222 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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When do you think the other two chinese exchanges will come out with the outcome from their chats?

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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I've still made a profit this week I think btc still has some wind back, but a lot still have faith. Even without China the Japanese and Korean markets are massive along with rest if world.

China taking control still means exchanges could cone back again later in year or next year.

Behemoth

2,105 posts

131 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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garylythgoe said:
When do you think the other two chinese exchanges will come out with the outcome from their chats?
This tweeter is usually amongst the first to report China BTC news to the west:

https://twitter.com/cnLedger

It's after 5pm in Beijing now, so my guess is anytime soon.
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