Crypto Currency Thread

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Behemoth

2,105 posts

132 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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DonkeyApple said:
No it isn’t. I can send money to anyone I want and across almost any border. It’s secure, fast and universal.
Bitcoin is faster, cheaper (and safer since there is no counterparty, no intermediary). I can send any amount, anywhere, in 10 minutes @ negligible cost right now.

Of course it's not universal & it won't even approach this for a long time yet. We'll all be sticking to wires & sepa payments for the foreseeable.

Note that if Bitcoin ever takes off, the base protocol will get far too expensive for small transactions. Upper layers like Lightning Network that settle to it will provide the quick seamless low cost transfer.

DonkeyApple

55,378 posts

170 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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Behemoth said:
DonkeyApple said:
No it isn’t. I can send money to anyone I want and across almost any border. It’s secure, fast and universal.
Bitcoin is faster, cheaper (and safer since there is no counterparty, no intermediary). I can send any amount, anywhere, in 10 minutes @ negligible cost right now.

Of course it's not universal & it won't even approach this for a long time yet. We'll all be sticking to wires & sepa payments for the foreseeable.

Note that if Bitcoin ever takes off, the base protocol will get far too expensive for small transactions. Upper layers like Lightning Network that settle to it will provide the quick seamless low cost transfer.
You can also send an email but it doesn’t buy Gary a sandwich in Istanbul.

NickCQ

5,392 posts

97 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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Behemoth said:
I can send any amount, anywhere, in 10 minutes @ negligible cost right now.
Negligible cost measured in bitcoins, but when you add in the volatility cost versus fiat you clearly have costs.

Behemoth

2,105 posts

132 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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DonkeyApple said:
You can also send an email but it doesn’t buy Gary a sandwich in Istanbul.
Yes, of course. I claimed nothing about what happens to the Bitcoin. If my counterparty regards it as a viable store of value, then the sandwich is irrelevant.

As an aside, somewhere in my jar of foreign coins, I've a token than lets me cross the Bosporus on the ferry. Many years after last visiting, I could still return and get the same service with that token. The Turkish Lira coins in there are probably worth a tenth or less.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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Behemoth said:
As an aside, somewhere in my jar of foreign coins, I've a token than lets me cross the Bosporus on the ferry. Many years after last visiting, I could still return and get the same service with that token. The Turkish Lira coins in there are probably worth a tenth or less.
Assuming they haven't created a new token which means the old token is no longer accepted.

DonkeyApple

55,378 posts

170 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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Behemoth said:
Yes, of course. I claimed nothing about what happens to the Bitcoin. If my counterparty regards it as a viable store of value, then the sandwich is irrelevant.

As an aside, somewhere in my jar of foreign coins, I've a token than lets me cross the Bosporus on the ferry. Many years after last visiting, I could still return and get the same service with that token. The Turkish Lira coins in there are probably worth a tenth or less.
Which one are we comparing to a cyptocurrency? It’s hard to tell.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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DonkeyApple said:
Behemoth said:
Yes, of course. I claimed nothing about what happens to the Bitcoin. If my counterparty regards it as a viable store of value, then the sandwich is irrelevant.

As an aside, somewhere in my jar of foreign coins, I've a token than lets me cross the Bosporus on the ferry. Many years after last visiting, I could still return and get the same service with that token. The Turkish Lira coins in there are probably worth a tenth or less.
Which one are we comparing to a cyptocurrency? It’s hard to tell.
rofl



x5x3

2,424 posts

254 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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I cannot believe this thread is now on page 119 and we have pretty much the same characters stating exactly the same thing they did way back on page 10 or 15.






Guvernator

13,161 posts

166 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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x5x3 said:
I cannot believe this thread is now on page 119 and we have pretty much the same characters stating exactly the same thing they did way back on page 10 or 15.
I take it you don't visit PH much? hehe

Behemoth

2,105 posts

132 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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DonkeyApple said:
Which one are we comparing to a cyptocurrency? It’s hard to tell.
Both wink

x5x3

2,424 posts

254 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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Guvernator said:
x5x3 said:
I cannot believe this thread is now on page 119 and we have pretty much the same characters stating exactly the same thing they did way back on page 10 or 15.
I take it you don't visit PH much? hehe
I do but I got bored of the same people saying the same things over and over again about 50 pages ago wink

James_B

12,642 posts

258 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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Behemoth said:
You seem unaware that I answered your irrelevant question and yet you continue to throw insults in an attempt to discredit my character. Pure ad hominem. Please talk about bitcoin & cryptocurrencies or move on, James. I am happy to debate, but I see no sense in debating unrelated subjects.

I really wonder what holds your interest in crypto, given you don't seem to have skin in the game.
Any chance of you printing me to where you answered my questions about conspiracy theories? You were very keen on back and forth before but seem to have been studiously avoiding me after you claim to have answered.

You do understand, don’t you, that people can read what you have written?

dimots

3,090 posts

91 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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James_B said:
Any chance of you printing me to where you answered my questions about conspiracy theories? You were very keen on back and forth before but seem to have been studiously avoiding me after you claim to have answered.

You do understand, don’t you, that people can read what you have written?
Why are you asking about conspiracy theories?

Do you believe in God or a higher being?

James_B

12,642 posts

258 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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dimots said:
Why are you asking about conspiracy theories?

Do you believe in God or a higher being?
I’m asking about it because there seems to be a really strong correlation between arguing for cryptocurrencies and espousing conspiracy theories, and it interests me.

And no, I don’t believe in a god or a higher being, do you?

And since I’ve politely answered your questions, would you answer mine? Do you believe in any “grand” conspiracy theories, such as the moon landings being a hoax, chemtrails, vaccines causing autism or the like?

dimots

3,090 posts

91 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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I don’t believe in any conspiracy theories and I see no correlation with bitcoin.

dieseluser07

2,452 posts

117 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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So while your all babbling all at each other about 'speculative markets' have non of you seen the latest news.

Xrp is actually going to be used for 3 companies to lower their cross border costs, first crypto to actually be used and not just speculated upon, most of them are ponzis but i think this one is the real deal.

dimots

3,090 posts

91 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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I was asking about god or a higher power because of course ultimate approval of all actions of the Bank of England (e.g. appointment of Governor) rest with the Queen who is in position because of her divine right to rule. We even have her picture on our bank notes...have you noticed?

You surely therefore have to accept that belief in god has more of a proven link to the current system of finance than conspiracy theories do to bitcoin?

Behemoth

2,105 posts

132 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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James_B said:
Any chance of you printing me to where you answered my questions about conspiracy theories? You were very keen on back and forth before but seem to have been studiously avoiding me after you claim to have answered.

You do understand, don’t you, that people can read what you have written?
Really, James. It's there in plain sight. You're a man seemingly obsessed with conspiracy theories and yet there are none. I trust your forex data analysis abilities are better than your skills at parsing an interweb forum.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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dieseluser07 said:
So while your all babbling all at each other about 'speculative markets' have non of you seen the latest news.

Xrp is actually going to be used for 3 companies to lower their cross border costs, first crypto to actually be used and not just speculated upon, most of them are ponzis but i think this one is the real deal.
I posted but seems bickering is the daily posts nowadays. I think xrp is interesting it probably end up winning the crypto battle, but not a fan myself. I still remember when I had 50k in xrps, ah well chalked up.

dieseluser07

2,452 posts

117 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2018
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Thesprucegoose said:
dieseluser07 said:
So while your all babbling all at each other about 'speculative markets' have non of you seen the latest news.

Xrp is actually going to be used for 3 companies to lower their cross border costs, first crypto to actually be used and not just speculated upon, most of them are ponzis but i think this one is the real deal.
I posted but seems bickering is the daily posts nowadays. I think xrp is interesting it probably end up winning the crypto battle, but not a fan myself. I still remember when I had 50k in xrps, ah well chalked up.
How come your not a fan?

I genuinely dont think any crypto like litecoin will survive because what exactly does having another currency solve?
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