Crypto Currency Thread

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Behemoth

2,105 posts

132 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2019
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DrSteveBrule said:
I have enough Link left to sell to make a difference to my life. It's a waiting game to see whether it pays for a new kitchen, a new house or a private island smile
Well done on making back your outlay. Wait long enough & you'll be able to buy a wooden spoon.

Connecting up multiple trusted centralised data feeds to do a multisig oracle service doesn't need a token. Unnecessary utility tokens never end well and (at best) you'll see a competitor fork it without the token (see 0x). The sock puppet marketing of this pointless token via a supporter's army reminds me so much of ripple.

provable.xyz does much the same thing but is less complicated because it doesn't add its own token. Its business model is sensible - you simply pay for the service if you want to use it.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 4th September 2019
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Lemming Train said:
DrSteveBrule said:
Thesprucegoose said:
I'm surprised you haven't bought some more now it is half it was a few weeks ago?
I'm happy with what I have; I've got my capital back so anything from now on is pure profit. I have enough Link left to sell to make a difference to my life. It's a waiting game to see whether it pays for a new kitchen, a new house or a private island smile
rofl So confident in the price recovering and going to the moon that you are "happy with what you have" and aren't buying any more. Rightio !

laugh
Only spend what you can afford to lose; I've got my capital back and I'd rather spend my free cash on long-overdue things like decorating the house. I'm happy with my holdings thank you.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 4th September 2019
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Behemoth said:
Connecting up multiple trusted centralised data feeds to do a multisig oracle service doesn't need a token.
Link connects decentralised, hitherto untrusted data feeds and verifies them. Its purpose is to enable more decentralisation. The reward for providing verifiable and reliable information is paid in Link tokens. The penalty for providing false information is losing the staked Link needed to power the nodes; kind of like insurance.

Behemoth said:
Unnecessary utility tokens never end well and (at best) you'll see a competitor fork it without the token (see 0x).
Forking the tech is a possibility; embedding yourself with the likes of Microsoft, Google, Oracle, Openlaw, Swift etc. is another thing entirely.

Behemoth said:
The sock puppet marketing of this pointless token via a supporter's army reminds me so much of ripple.
Have to agree to some extent, the fanatics are an embarrassment. Not quite as bad as XRP's shills though.

Behemoth

2,105 posts

132 months

Wednesday 4th September 2019
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What decentralised data feeds would they be?

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 4th September 2019
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As I understand it, a feed can be anything. If you've set up a node on the Chainlink network you could feed the number of ants living in your ant farm into the network.

Link works on consensus, so if there was an ant-farm call from an API and it needed information then it would have to gather info from several ant-farm nodes, compare the answers from each node and return the consensus as the correct answer.

One centralised party feeding centralised information into the network isn't what's wanted; hence why Google purchasing Chainlink (for example) would undermine the ethos. That would mean one source providing all the answers (as it does now) and there is an opportunity to bias the results (as it also does now).

Essentially any information supplied by Link to an API call would be the result of a verified consensus vote from numerous nodes rather than one single source.

Apologies if I've misunderstood the question.


Behemoth

2,105 posts

132 months

Wednesday 4th September 2019
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That's not an example of a decentralised feed. Oracles aren't unique to your token, far from it. The API work is a fairly simple piece of JSON. I really don't see what this is offering & I certainly don't see the need for yet another token. Just like xrp, the technology can be built & sold as a service or product without bothering with the token. Furthermore, I don't see any difference between Google or Alan Sugar or your token's dev team owning this. There's really nothing decentralised about it.

Greshamst

2,078 posts

121 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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I’ve got to say, Bitcoin has held fairly stable recently (for bitcoin), I don’t imagine this is it settling down, but it has been relatively boring of late!

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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A lot of XRP moaning as other coins up past year yet XRP down 20%. When the coin owner is selling billions then it isn't as free as other coins.

g4ry13

17,047 posts

256 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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Thesprucegoose said:
A lot of XRP moaning as other coins up past year yet XRP down 20%. When the coin owner is selling billions then it isn't as free as other coins.
Seems to have pumped after your post. Can you do another one please?

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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Better asking XRP labs there the ones that decide the price.

Corso Marche

1,724 posts

202 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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Anybody care to offer an opinion on LTC? Anybody expect long term gains? I'm thinking of selling the LTC I have.

RizzoTheRat

25,211 posts

193 months

Wednesday 18th September 2019
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Greshamst said:
I’ve got to say, Bitcoin has held fairly stable recently (for bitcoin), I don’t imagine this is it settling down, but it has been relatively boring of late!
Annoyingly so. I sold a bit too early at €8k expecting it to plummet again and it hasn't been below that since. ranting

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 18th September 2019
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RizzoTheRat said:
Annoyingly so. I sold a bit too early at €8k expecting it to plummet again and it hasn't been below that since. ranting
Some time back I saw a tweet about bitcoin along these lines

You can sell your entire holding today for 2x the current market price. Only proviso is that you can never buy any bitcoin ever again

Would you?

g4ry13

17,047 posts

256 months

Wednesday 18th September 2019
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Corso Marche said:
Anybody care to offer an opinion on LTC? Anybody expect long term gains? I'm thinking of selling the LTC I have.
Hoping for some long term gains. But who really knows....this is crypto and if I was 100% about it then i'd bet the house + more.

Charlie Lee didn't really help a few years back when he sold his lot.

dimots

3,099 posts

91 months

Monday 23rd September 2019
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Financial markets looking healthy eek

Storing trillions in loss making bonds because it's the least worst option. The only way to profit from these is if things get worse and interest rates drop below zero so the debt can be sold on to someone with an even more negative outlook.

And even give the above, this is still a better option than cash.

TLDR: the capitalist system is fked. Buy bitcoin!

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/negative-yield-...

Behemoth

2,105 posts

132 months

Monday 23rd September 2019
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dimots said:
Storing trillions in loss making bonds because it's the least worst option. The only way to profit from these is if things get worse and interest rates drop below zero so the debt can be sold on to someone with an even more negative outlook.
Greater fool theory exemplar biggrin

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 24th September 2019
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Behemoth said:
Greater fool theory exemplar biggrin
Talking of greater fool theory, any reason why crypto is down today? Shaking out the weak hands or does it have to pull back like a slingshot so it can shoot to the moon?

Behemoth

2,105 posts

132 months

Tuesday 24th September 2019
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Joey Deacon said:
any reason why crypto is down today
A momentary drop in estimated hashrate got speculators worried.

loskie

5,262 posts

121 months

Tuesday 24th September 2019
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https://www.wilsonsauctions.com/timed-auction/list...


Wilsons Auctions selling cryptocurrency. Presumably seized under the proceeds of crime act.


Bitcoin etc I cannot get my head round and be confident in but may be of interest to some of you.

g4ry13

17,047 posts

256 months

Tuesday 24th September 2019
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Joey Deacon said:
Behemoth said:
Greater fool theory exemplar biggrin
Talking of greater fool theory, any reason why crypto is down today? Shaking out the weak hands or does it have to pull back like a slingshot so it can shoot to the moon?
Does there have to be a reason behind every move?
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