Share tips thread (Vol 2)
Discussion
K12beano said:
anonymous said:
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haha....I make a general rule not to bother to keep watching after a full sell decision.
In this case I’ve just taken back original stake plus a bit. Feels a bit more “relaxed” now to watch the last few days’ volatility!
ATM said:
I read somewhere that getting into a position is easier than getting out. If you think about then its definitely a mind bender.
Getting out is easy if the hit is an amount of money you’d throw out the car window for s
ts and giggles and not miss in a heart beat. What stops people closing out when they know they shouldnis the fact that they’ve gone in too big for their mindset in the first instance.
The primary key tonprofitable punting is to first sit down and work out what the amount of money is that you, as an individual, can just drop down the drain without looking back or giving two hoots. When you know what that amount is then you know what the max amount is that you can risknin a trade.
Most punters ignore that so go in far too big and then can’t think straight on the punts that go the other way.
DonkeyApple said:
ATM said:
I read somewhere that getting into a position is easier than getting out. If you think about then its definitely a mind bender.
Getting out is easy if the hit is an amount of money you’d throw out the car window for sts and giggles and not miss in a heart beat. What stops people closing out when they know they shouldnis the fact that they’ve gone in too big for their mindset in the first instance.
The primary key tonprofitable punting is to first sit down and work out what the amount of money is that you, as an individual, can just drop down the drain without looking back or giving two hoots. When you know what that amount is then you know what the max amount is that you can risknin a trade.
Most punters ignore that so go in far too big and then can’t think straight on the punts that go the other way.
There's also the aspect of trades in profit. The old adage is to 'let your profits run and cut your losses short'. So it becomes a balancing act of how greedy to be and when to take your money off the table.
g4ry13 said:
DonkeyApple said:
ATM said:
I read somewhere that getting into a position is easier than getting out. If you think about then its definitely a mind bender.
Getting out is easy if the hit is an amount of money you’d throw out the car window for sts and giggles and not miss in a heart beat. What stops people closing out when they know they shouldnis the fact that they’ve gone in too big for their mindset in the first instance.
The primary key tonprofitable punting is to first sit down and work out what the amount of money is that you, as an individual, can just drop down the drain without looking back or giving two hoots. When you know what that amount is then you know what the max amount is that you can risknin a trade.
Most punters ignore that so go in far too big and then can’t think straight on the punts that go the other way.
There's also the aspect of trades in profit. The old adage is to 'let your profits run and cut your losses short'. So it becomes a balancing act of how greedy to be and when to take your money off the table.
Burwood said:
g4ry13 said:
DonkeyApple said:
ATM said:
I read somewhere that getting into a position is easier than getting out. If you think about then its definitely a mind bender.
Getting out is easy if the hit is an amount of money you’d throw out the car window for sts and giggles and not miss in a heart beat. What stops people closing out when they know they shouldnis the fact that they’ve gone in too big for their mindset in the first instance.
The primary key tonprofitable punting is to first sit down and work out what the amount of money is that you, as an individual, can just drop down the drain without looking back or giving two hoots. When you know what that amount is then you know what the max amount is that you can risknin a trade.
Most punters ignore that so go in far too big and then can’t think straight on the punts that go the other way.
There's also the aspect of trades in profit. The old adage is to 'let your profits run and cut your losses short'. So it becomes a balancing act of how greedy to be and when to take your money off the table.
From a risk management perspective, taking a position size larger than you're comfortable with will often lead to a different decision than what an individual may feel is ultimately correct if their position size was a small % of their portfolio. Although I think that's somewhat stating the obvious in any case.
anonymous said:
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Technically having a fixed percentage is high risk and inefficient as you need to base a profit exit level around the risk being taken and for example, the risk on every opening trade isn’t ever uniform so it’s a bespoke calculation every time. It’s also an important one as it forces the investor to have a clearer understanding of what it is they are taking exposure to. For example, 10% on one stock could leave you invested for years while on another 10% is never enough to compensate for the risk of 50-90% collapse.
To not be gambling there needs to a profit target defined by the risk being taken and the time expected on each opening position.
What should this thread actually be for?
Should i post every time i open or close a position?
In the last 2 weeks i sold Janus Henderson Technology fund (only bought it because when i started looking at investing i was looking at Tech funds and Janus was the one i book marked).
The money then went into TI Fluid at 183p.
Wednesday i then sold half of my position in XP Power at 26% total gain since November last year and bought some more TI Fluid (199.8p).
Yesterday i sold the rest of my XP Power for 30% gain and this morning i have bought some IAG for 527p
My only other holdings are Speedy Hire (+11%) and Scottish Mortgage Trust (Which is the damn thing holding me back and -1%).
Should i post every time i open or close a position?
In the last 2 weeks i sold Janus Henderson Technology fund (only bought it because when i started looking at investing i was looking at Tech funds and Janus was the one i book marked).
The money then went into TI Fluid at 183p.
Wednesday i then sold half of my position in XP Power at 26% total gain since November last year and bought some more TI Fluid (199.8p).
Yesterday i sold the rest of my XP Power for 30% gain and this morning i have bought some IAG for 527p
My only other holdings are Speedy Hire (+11%) and Scottish Mortgage Trust (Which is the damn thing holding me back and -1%).
Edited by Benbay001 on Friday 8th November 14:23
Benbay001 said:
Wednesday i then sold half of my position in XP Power at 26% total gain since November last year and bought some more TI Fluid (199.8p).
Yesterday i sold the rest of my XP Power for 30% gain and this morning i have bought some IAG for 527p
Out of interest what were your thoughts behind investing in XP? Yesterday i sold the rest of my XP Power for 30% gain and this morning i have bought some IAG for 527p
NMC Health is motoring in the last couple of days. Up 136p yesterday and another 100 today. Currently around 2600p with brokers forecasting over 4000p.
Share buy back announced but there were also takeover rumours a few months back.
Edit. Just read this is Barclays Capital top pick in the sector:
Discussions at the roadshow had focused on the fundamentals of the business, with its business performance continuing to exceed expectations thanks to record numbers of patients.
"It was therefore unsurprising that management were perplexed at the dislocation between fundamentals and the stock price," they said.
Investors were sounding a similar tune, describing the firm's recent first half results as "encouraging", particularly as regards the firm's improving free cash flow.
"Further evidence of execution, approval of the buyback and debt paydown should drive a re-rating in the shares, which screen attractively relative to the growth. We detail the key takeaways below. NMC Health remains our Top Pick in the sector."
Share buy back announced but there were also takeover rumours a few months back.
Edit. Just read this is Barclays Capital top pick in the sector:
Discussions at the roadshow had focused on the fundamentals of the business, with its business performance continuing to exceed expectations thanks to record numbers of patients.
"It was therefore unsurprising that management were perplexed at the dislocation between fundamentals and the stock price," they said.
Investors were sounding a similar tune, describing the firm's recent first half results as "encouraging", particularly as regards the firm's improving free cash flow.
"Further evidence of execution, approval of the buyback and debt paydown should drive a re-rating in the shares, which screen attractively relative to the growth. We detail the key takeaways below. NMC Health remains our Top Pick in the sector."
Edited by elanfan on Tuesday 19th November 15:55
Busterhighmen said:
Out of interest what were your thoughts behind investing in XP?
They looked cheap.They consistently made profit and grew.
Paid a small dividend.
Debt was fair.
I understood the product and realise how hard it is for new manufacturers to bring in new products in medical/ high voltage/ high power PSU market.
Their price had been driven down excessively by a short term profit warning but things were predicted to get better (which they did).
To me, their p/e is now in line with other electronics industry companies and as a value investor i sold as i am confident i can find other undervalued companies to put my money into.
Are you thinking of buying?
Greshamst said:
TCX said:
What's hsppening,no mention of eua-,lon?never mind Sunday night at the palladium....Mon/Tues/wed at the paladium,/rhodium?
Just don't follow euz by mistake ??
And I thought the gibberish was mostly kept to LSE messageboards Just don't follow euz by mistake ??
speedyguy said:
Still decent was at .2 earlier today. 
Sill doubled since i posted this a couple of months ago after a couple of wobbles.
Been a gooooood day in Clontarf as well, sold a few at about 70% profit but keep holding the rest. Could have been in and out twice at its present price in the last couple of months and made a few quid but heyho
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