Share tips thread (Vol 2)

Share tips thread (Vol 2)

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DonkeyApple

55,419 posts

170 months

Friday 31st January 2020
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But they now get to finance the running costs of an F1 team in exchange for previously having oven a load of money to Dave Richards pension pot. From one self serving parasite to another. Happy days. biggrin

Luke.

11,002 posts

251 months

Monday 3rd February 2020
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Tesla... Oh my word..

g4ry13

17,031 posts

256 months

Monday 3rd February 2020
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I saw one article claiming it's going to hit $15k by 2024. Obviously that's just one opinion but some people think it's got a long way to go still.

p1stonhead

25,576 posts

168 months

Monday 3rd February 2020
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Luke. said:
Tesla... Oh my word..
I took a gamble (nothing more) and took a position on where I thought was high but may give a few percent more. That was about a week ago. Ridiculous since then!

20% just today!

eps

6,297 posts

270 months

Tuesday 4th February 2020
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g4ry13 said:
I saw one article claiming it's going to hit $15k by 2024. Obviously that's just one opinion but some people think it's got a long way to go still.
and at the end of that article it also said "To be fair, ARK has also presented another extreme scenario where the share price goes to zero after Tesla goes bankrupt. The most likely outcome probably lies somewhere in between."

silverous

1,008 posts

135 months

Tuesday 4th February 2020
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Can't believe I got out of Tesla around end of December, I was back in profit and thought it was time to get out. I think I'd have possibly doubled my money since if I'd kept them . Plan is to wait for the bubble to burst then get back in and try and ride the next wave of it.

pb8g09

2,345 posts

70 months

Tuesday 4th February 2020
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silverous said:
Can't believe I got out of Tesla around end of December, I was back in profit and thought it was time to get out. I think I'd have possibly doubled my money since if I'd kept them . Plan is to wait for the bubble to burst then get back in and try and ride the next wave of it.
“Let your profits run and cut your losses short” rings to mind!

eps

6,297 posts

270 months

Tuesday 4th February 2020
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silverous said:
Can't believe I got out of Tesla around end of December, I was back in profit and thought it was time to get out. I think I'd have possibly doubled my money since if I'd kept them . Plan is to wait for the bubble to burst then get back in and try and ride the next wave of it.
Never regret banking profit!

p1stonhead

25,576 posts

168 months

Tuesday 4th February 2020
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eps said:
silverous said:
Can't believe I got out of Tesla around end of December, I was back in profit and thought it was time to get out. I think I'd have possibly doubled my money since if I'd kept them . Plan is to wait for the bubble to burst then get back in and try and ride the next wave of it.
Never regret banking profit!
This.

Although I tend to bank losses a lot more! grumpy

DE1975

435 posts

107 months

Tuesday 4th February 2020
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Tesla movements have all the hallmarks of a short squeeze. You've got the perfect storm, of daily double digit gains, analysts you've never heard of touting trillion dollar turnover targets and $15k share price targets. And frenzy of retail buyers with FOMO and short sellers forced to close their positions

God knows how much further it will run, but I do expect it will crash back down just as quickly

I saw someone say, that if the rise were real, Tesla would be raising loads of cash by issuing equity to fund themselves for the next decade. That they are not doing so should tell you all you need to know

Edited by DE1975 on Tuesday 4th February 14:08

Burwood

18,709 posts

247 months

Tuesday 4th February 2020
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DE1975 said:
Tesla movements have all the hallmarks of a short squeeze. You've got the perfect storm, of daily double digit gains, analysts you've never heard of touting trillion dollar turnover targets and $15k share price targets. And frenzy of retail buyers with FOMO and short sellers forced to close their positions

God knows how much further it will run, but I do expect it will crash back down just as quickly

I saw someone say, that if the rise were real, Tesla would be raising loads of cash by issuing equity to fund themselves for the next decade. That they are not doing so should tell you all you need to know

Edited by DE1975 on Tuesday 4th February 14:08
A complete coin flip but the guy who purchase 1000 June 800 Call contracts @20 last week must be pretty happy. Today these contracts are worth 23.5M USD

g4ry13

17,031 posts

256 months

Tuesday 4th February 2020
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Tesla might currently have the jump on the conventional car companies but what's going to stop them from catching up and overtaking Tesla?

Is it that Tesla is 'cool' to own or their charging network (which doesn't really exist in this country).

In 10 years are people really going to buy a Tesla over an electric Mercedes if we go down this electric path?

Benbay001

5,801 posts

158 months

Tuesday 4th February 2020
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How Tesla can have a market cap considerably greater than Volkswagen, i have no idea.
AFAIK Tesla have yet to have a full year of profitability.

I dont directly know anyone who has bought or considered a Tesla, yet i know plenty of people who own cars from the VW group.

Without actually checked the specific numbers, it looks like a house of cards waiting to fall.

Edit: Just checked autotrader. There are 158 Teslas for sale in total and 12000 VWs since 2018, yet alone all the Skodas, Audis and SEATs.

Im sure there is more profit in a Tesla, but clearly not enough, otherwise they wouldnt be making losses.

Edited by Benbay001 on Tuesday 4th February 20:10


Edited by Benbay001 on Tuesday 4th February 20:11

ATM

18,300 posts

220 months

Wednesday 5th February 2020
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Burwood said:
A complete coin flip but the guy who purchase 1000 June 800 Call contracts @20 last week must be pretty happy. Today these contracts are worth 23.5M USD
No idea what this means but IG is showing 70% short on Tesla.

Burwood

18,709 posts

247 months

Wednesday 5th February 2020
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ATM said:
Burwood said:
A complete coin flip but the guy who purchase 1000 June 800 Call contracts @20 last week must be pretty happy. Today these contracts are worth 23.5M USD
No idea what this means but IG is showing 70% short on Tesla.
It means of accounts with a position in TSLA, 70% of them are Short.

ATM

18,300 posts

220 months

Wednesday 5th February 2020
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Burwood said:
ATM said:
Burwood said:
A complete coin flip but the guy who purchase 1000 June 800 Call contracts @20 last week must be pretty happy. Today these contracts are worth 23.5M USD
No idea what the above means.


IG is showing 70% short on Tesla.
It means of accounts with a position in TSLA, 70% of them are Short.
Sorry I meant ... edited version above.

HarryW

15,151 posts

270 months

Wednesday 5th February 2020
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Wonder how many of the shorts are locked in now on Tesla, it’s gone up 4 fold since June.

Burwood

18,709 posts

247 months

Wednesday 5th February 2020
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ATM said:
Burwood said:
ATM said:
Burwood said:
A complete coin flip but the guy who purchase 1000 June 800 Call contracts @20 last week must be pretty happy. Today these contracts are worth 23.5M USD
No idea what the above means.


IG is showing 70% short on Tesla.
It means of accounts with a position in TSLA, 70% of them are Short.
Sorry I meant ... edited version above.
A Call contract (1) equates to the right to buy 100 common stock at a predetermined price anytime until expiry of the option. you pay a premium for this 'option'. someone bought 1000 contracts (100*1000 = 100k shares) for $20 per or $2,000 per contract. Expiry June 19th and the strike price is $800. So the option is now what they call, in the money. Intrinsically if todays price is $900 and the option strike is 800, you have a value of $100, right.

g4ry13

17,031 posts

256 months

Wednesday 5th February 2020
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A bit less pop in TSLA today. I saw an article about them delaying some vehicles but i'm sure it's more a case of profit taking + shorting.

Any excuse for the price to go down after such a rise.

jimmybell

589 posts

118 months

Thursday 6th February 2020
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Anyone have any good 'green' / 'sustainable' emerging equities on the up?

It seems most fund managers think a 'green' fund is just a load of firms that spend lots on carbon offset, and/or tesla. The amount of articles that have Shell/Total/BP on their top 'green' firms list is hilarious. I'd be keen to build a list of firms that benefit from a global shift towards green/sustainable living and that would benefit from a global acknowledgement of the climate crisis .. most likely because policy will shift forcing the markets in that direction.

Things like TSLR, FSLR etc are pretty obvious, but what about things like sustainable/compostable packaging or plastic alternatives, or perhaps low impact/sustainable building materials manufacturers, or food producers/associated firms that benefit from a shift to local/slow food?