What’s your big gamble? (Volume 4)

What’s your big gamble? (Volume 4)

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vulture1

12,284 posts

180 months

Monday 13th June 2022
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Adam. said:
Luke. said:
hehe

ARVL tempting you still or all too risky?
Whilst the 12 month chart is impressive I threw my last pennies at ZIM last week.

It’s making more profit in a year than it’s MC and paying huge dividends.

So of course it’s down 6% today
I might buy some more Zim when it gets to a 2% drop day. Todays 6% makes me think there is more to come. However I bought more Realty income Co as it is actually below my target and started slowly buying back Vale which i'll buy a little of every week or so.


Mr Whippy

29,088 posts

242 months

Monday 13th June 2022
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ferrisbueller said:
Mr Whippy said:
MikeStroud said:
Mr Whippy said:
I think you’re right but this wasn’t natural market dynamics.

Government policy on covid, then energy generally, and sanctions on Russia, have all provided this environment for a windfall, despite the sanctions in all those areas largely being a net negative on society.

It’d be tremendously unfair to sit there watching society take a hit by government policy to “make the world a better place”TM while you then said “ah but these were the tax rules so you can’t change them blah blah”

2007-2008, fine. But now? Really?
I guarantee that had sanctions, covid etc resulted in those companies making big losses you would not be advocating bailing them out.

I’ve not yet heard anyone sympathising with bp and handing them money when they made losses in the previous year.
We’ll I think you’ll agree this is the difficulty of living in a non socialist or non free market economy.

While government and central banks choose and legislate winners and losers, you’ll never win.


Really it comes down to the privatise profit, socialise debt angle.
Is the public paying a disproportionate price for something they have had little choice over, in effect imposed by their own government?

Should a private enterprise profit from that?

It sounds a bit like crony capitalism to me.
So the energy companies colluded with Putin on the invasion of Ukraine so they could cash in? These same energy companies who are evolving inline with policy and spending billions to do so. As above, I hope they can reinvest everything in their evolution to minimise the money grab. Yes, we have a societal issue with affordability, but why take the energy cap off and exacerbate that?

Per above, PPE contracts might align with your conspiracy theories, but the energy companies bit is a stretch.

I don't know how prices are set for individual stations, but who is it that decides that my local Tesco charges 3p a litre more than the one 8 miles away? Do Shell define the pricing for all of their franchises? Who is making sure that they're not profiteering?

A political agenda which provides a soft target shouldn't legitimise a money grab. Is Rishi going to layout exactly what the government deems to be an acceptable profit across all business in all sectors in all conditions?

The wealth tax is a similar ploy. Sorry Mr&Mrs Smith, your life long sacrifices and sound choices mean you've accrued more wealth than we deem acceptable so we're going to have to come and take that off you.
Sorry, a bit late back to this one.

There is no conspiracy inferred, but weird you’d raise that.

The issue here is the free market vs socialist considerations.

Free markets or just live with the consequences of appealing to whingers.


If there’d have been free markets I’d have bought my gas off Russia and BP wouldn’t have made as much money.

The net effect of free markets were they in play, should be the goal of restitutions when whimsical socialist faffing by government causes distortions that aren’t intended.

lemmingjames

7,464 posts

205 months

Monday 13th June 2022
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Dawn pharmaceutical (dawn) = +100-110% today

No news on the Web about what they've found or why the bounce

Quite a few others on trading 212 app showing 20% gains but fk knows why as well

Adam.

27,314 posts

255 months

Monday 13th June 2022
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lemmingjames said:
Dawn pharmaceutical (dawn) = +100-110% today

No news on the Web about what they've found or why the bounce

Quite a few others on trading 212 app showing 20% gains but fk knows why as well
Yesterday that would have been very helpful wink

ferrisbueller

29,361 posts

228 months

Monday 13th June 2022
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Luke. said:
Adam. said:
Fun day!
hehe

ARVL tempting you still or all too risky?
I have added some. And Alphabet.

Vanity Projects

2,443 posts

162 months

Monday 13th June 2022
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Topped up a bit of Argo Blockchain, I’m mainly short the wider indexes so although a few bits have been hit today I’m net up.

Still 50% cash 10% inflation doesn’t seem like that big a gamble anymore…

Phooey

12,626 posts

170 months

Monday 13th June 2022
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Vanity Projects said:
Topped up a bit of Argo Blockchain
If you’re throwing money away throw it my way!



ARB is done, I’d be surprised if its still here in 12 months


Edited by Phooey on Monday 13th June 20:05

lemmingjames

7,464 posts

205 months

Monday 13th June 2022
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Adam. said:
lemmingjames said:
Dawn pharmaceutical (dawn) = +100-110% today

No news on the Web about what they've found or why the bounce

Quite a few others on trading 212 app showing 20% gains but fk knows why as well
Yesterday that would have been very helpful wink
What can go wrong, surely it'll do another 100% tomorrow...

egomeister

6,712 posts

264 months

Monday 13th June 2022
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Phooey said:
Vanity Projects said:
Topped up a bit of Argo Blockchain
If you’re throwing money away throw it my way!



ARB is done, I’d be surprised if its still here in 12 months


Edited by Phooey on Monday 13th June 20:05
Yeah, it's not somewhere I'd put my money. These are worth a read for anyone with an interest in ARB

https://theboatmancapital.com/2021/08/09/argo-bloc...
https://theboatmancapital.com/2021/12/06/argo-bloc...


vulture1

12,284 posts

180 months

Monday 13th June 2022
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lemmingjames said:
Adam. said:
lemmingjames said:
Dawn pharmaceutical (dawn) = +100-110% today

No news on the Web about what they've found or why the bounce

Quite a few others on trading 212 app showing 20% gains but fk knows why as well
Yesterday that would have been very helpful wink
What can go wrong, surely it'll do another 100% tomorrow...
Yeah 100% down laugh

lemmingjames

7,464 posts

205 months

Monday 13th June 2022
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vulture1 said:
Yeah 100% down laugh
Can't seem to short it now, had some in earlier but hit stop loss and now I'd be a few 100 in the green if I didn't set it up

Ok here's another one, aero, up 30% since Friday and still climbing but can't figure out if it'll go to the moon or pop over night

Adam.

27,314 posts

255 months

Monday 13th June 2022
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lemmingjames said:
Ok here's another one, aero, up 30% since Friday and still climbing but can't figure out if it'll go to the moon or pop over night
You’re on fire, let us know whether it’s moon or poop beforehand please smile

lemmingjames

7,464 posts

205 months

Monday 13th June 2022
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Adam. said:
You’re on fire, let us know whether it’s moon or poop beforehand please smile
Hows that abml tip you gave us doing....

Adam.

27,314 posts

255 months

Monday 13th June 2022
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lemmingjames said:
Hows that abml tip you gave us doing....
st but you seem to be confusing me with Luke

Vanity Projects

2,443 posts

162 months

Monday 13th June 2022
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Phooey said:
If you’re throwing money away throw it my way!



ARB is done, I’d be surprised if its still here in 12 months


Edited by Phooey on Monday 13th June 20:05
Ha, it’s 1.5% of my portfolio and is a simple Bitcoin proxy as I see it. Hopefully they’re still using their mum’s spare bedroom and aren’t paying the leccy bill for their mining…

Luke.

11,018 posts

251 months

Monday 13th June 2022
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Vanity Projects said:
Ha, it’s 1.5% of my portfolio and is a simple Bitcoin proxy as I see it. Hopefully they’re still using their mum’s spare bedroom and aren’t paying the leccy bill for their mining…
They've had to close down parts of their new Texas mining site 'Helios' as it's too expensive to run in the hot weather.

Vanity Projects

2,443 posts

162 months

Monday 13th June 2022
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Luke. said:
They've had to close down parts of their new Texas mining site 'Helios' as it's too expensive to run in the hot weather.
Shame they haven’t got exposure to Celsius network, I hear that’s frozen right now biggrin

Just had a look at galaxy digital share price, 5 CAD, markets closed now but I might stick a few of my Canadian dollars from Cenovus in there for a gamble

Chris Type R

8,048 posts

250 months

Tuesday 14th June 2022
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Checking my P/F, it's dropped back to the lowest point it was following the invasion of Ukraine. Balls.

Earl of Hazzard

3,604 posts

159 months

Tuesday 14th June 2022
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Chris Type R said:
Checking my P/F, it's dropped back to the lowest point it was following the invasion of Ukraine. Balls.
I bought BATS and Anglo American last Thursday tongue out
If I hadn't bought BP and Shell back in 2020/21 I'd be well down atm

Chris Type R

8,048 posts

250 months

Tuesday 14th June 2022
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Earl of Hazzard said:
Chris Type R said:
Checking my P/F, it's dropped back to the lowest point it was following the invasion of Ukraine. Balls.
I bought BATS and Anglo American last Thursday tongue out
If I hadn't bought BP and Shell back in 2020/21 I'd be well down atm
Likewise - oilers & banks - although the banks have dropped back quite a bit now that the taps have been turned off.