Mis-sold Solar Panels compensation

Mis-sold Solar Panels compensation

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irc

7,312 posts

136 months

Sunday 3rd March
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pghstochaj said:
Not in the context of:

“I was assured that the fee paid to AFK was safely held in a secure client account and that it would be refunded in full in the event that the claim was unsuccessful. “
It looks to me that he is £2580 out of pocket. Any claims about client accounts mean nothing if it is a scam.

https://ie.trustpilot.com/review/afkletters.com

gotoPzero

17,241 posts

189 months

Sunday 3rd March
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"AFK"..... errr ok then.

They at least have a sense of humor.


Teddy Lop

8,294 posts

67 months

Sunday 3rd March
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These companies are probably run by the same sharks that sold the panels in the first place.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 15th March
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After reading the trustpilot reviews, their phone number has been disconnected.
I have instructed my credit card company to block any further Debits and have made a claim under section 75 to get back what I have paid.
That the company should be reported to ACTION FRAUD, I have decided to do this. After speaking with an advisor who said that taking debits without authorization is fraud, I was also advised to contact my bank to inform them of the case report number.

smack

9,729 posts

191 months

Friday 15th March
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Looking at AFK Letters, basic website, not much substance, just fluff, address appears to be a Business Centre, with loads of companies registered to it.

Companies house and directors:
https://find-and-update.company-information.servic...

Started by a Russian, address in Baker Street above a Pret, with 463 appointments - he mush be a very busy man, and one of those stand up honest Russians....
https://find-and-update.company-information.servic...

2nd Director, Steven GALLAGHER, had a company called The Template People, which after 18 months is about to get struck off
https://find-and-update.company-information.servic...

And the current director, Peter Taylor, 124 City Road London, born in 1964
https://find-and-update.company-information.servic...

Also, just started Legal Ninja, but wait he is born in 1986
https://find-and-update.company-information.servic...

Hang on, 1989, maybe he gets really confused when filling in forms.....
https://find-and-update.company-information.servic...

But wait, there is a Peter Taylor with an address a few doors up at 160 City Road with the same postcode, wow, I didn't he has such a common name!!!!
https://find-and-update.company-information.servic...

Nope, not fishy at all.....

Monkeylegend

26,407 posts

231 months

Friday 22nd March
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Radio ham said:
Not fishy!!! I would recommend looking at Trustpilot about afkletters as so far 34 negative reviews of how people who have been scammed. Now there phone is disconnected and they don't respond to emails. Yes very suspicious and hope that the thieves get put in prison!!
I think you missed the humour/sarcasm there smile

Monkeylegend

26,407 posts

231 months

Saturday 23rd March
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Radio ham said:
Not humour
Have you heard the one about the parrot then?

Monkeylegend

26,407 posts

231 months

Saturday 23rd March
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Quick post deletion smile

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 23rd March
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You don't get the point, idiot!!!

DonkeyApple

55,311 posts

169 months

Saturday 23rd March
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Teddy Lop said:
These companies are probably run by the same sharks that sold the panels in the first place.
Bingo. The first compo schemes will usually be backed by the people who first mugged off the old folk for the panels. But all the folk who bought panels back then are on the mug lists which don't cost much to buy and start cold calling to spank them on anything you like. They would have been being rinsed for home insulation, trying to be sold ASHP and because they're very rich pickings for rinsing they'll get tapped for endless compo claims.

The key with these blokes was that they had no money when they were working and zero experience or ability with money. At the same time, they devoutly believe other people have lots of money and are making even more via savvy investing. They also are lifelong tabloid consumers and they live in small houses.

What you also know is that at the point at which they retire they will get access to the largest pot of money they have ever seen in their life and the key is to get as much of that sent to you before the idiot sends it to someone else or buys a motorhome.

First shot is to try and get them to just transfer all of their pension to you. If you manage that then you've just got all of their money so now own them. No one else can get to that money and you can take your time to take it all.

Next best thing is to get to work on the 25% tax free lump sum if they won't just give you their pension. That can be quite easy. These folk genuinely believe everyone else is invested and making bank as that's the only way to explain why that Gary next door has just got a new Kia and is going on a cruise next year. The perma tanned ponce. You can't get them into NFTs, crypto, meme stocks and all the crap you spank their grandkids with all day long ensuring they are losers for life but you've got a better hook for the oldies which is income not fabulous capital returns. They want income. Sell the dream of income that will allow them to live like Gary the ponce and you are off to the races.

So what do you get your idiot to buy? Well historically you obviously had time shares and in recent years you've had mini bonds where you get your idiot to think 10% a year on cash is something that exists and so they send their money to what they think is a cash bond allowing you to skim 30% immediately in fees but the remaining 70% can just be spent of cars, helicopters, apartments, hookers and all the general fripperies that the stupid think the honest wealthy are actually spending their money on.

If you can't get them via financial services then you have your secondary income investments. These are investments which generate their return by saving you money. You could try and pitch cavity wall insulation or loft insulation but the real money has been the solar panel wheeze. It was government backed, no meaningful regulation so your income numbers could be wholly fabricated. You need to be a bit savvy when punting solar and batteries these days to people in employment, the scam needs to be more sophisticated but back then these fresh pensioners with their cash pile and zero common sense were rich pickings. Solar was brilliant. You just made up any price you liked based on just how dumb the mug on the opposite sofa looked. Made up any numbers when it came to the money saving bit and the stuff about how the evil Govt was going to pay you money was catnip to the plonkers.

Ex council house, some fancy concrete bits at the front to denote it's owned so no adult to step in and say no. Bloke inside has recently retired. No sign of a motorhome as of yet. Bingo. We are off to the races. We have a mark. Of course nowadays you do it electronically. You can find all the people who fit your search criteria and create an initial mugs list. You then hit that list with some soft entry stuff to filter, find and qualify your 'JML, Robert Dyas and all good home stores' punter. After which you are off.

In reality, it's not even that complex. These are the morons who fill out brightly coloured forms on low cost flights or pretty much any brightly coloured form that has a bit of gold ink and appeared to be offering something for free. Harvesting idiots has never been the difficult part but since these people started getting big private pensions and allowed to take lump sums out and even move the whole pot they've become a fantastic source of revenue to help smarter, younger people to have lots of holidays, big houses, send their kids to private school to get them new accents and so all that fancy not coughing in faces and holding cutlery stuff. And lots of holidays of course. And cars.

Of course the absolute end of the road is to finally, once you've spanked them for all the usual stuff is to spank them via the compo free money gig or equity release. Cos if you can get their home off them then why not.

Anyway, to just get to the point, sorry OP but your folks have been spanked. And more than once. And I'd wager they get an abnormal amount of junk Mail, special offers and telephone calls from people who aren't Auntie Ethel.

What you need to do is give them a good old fashioned hearty slap round the chops and work with them to get them off as many spank lists as you can and set rules for them re junk Mail and cold calls. You need to shock the fknuggets quite hard to break through that old man arrogance that they use to protect themselves from realising they're just a mug that's easily spanked.

Start by mocking Gary the perma tanned ponce because eggs as eggs you know that fknugget is getting spanked harder than your parents have.


Monkeylegend

26,407 posts

231 months

Saturday 23rd March
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Radio ham said:
You don't get the point, idiot!!!
None taken hehe


"Nope, not fishy at all...................."

Doesn't actually mean that, and a whoosh parrot is awarded for somebody who has missed the obvious or who has been taken in by such a post.

All done in good fun and usually reciprocated in similar fashion by the poster who has been fooled.

Look on it as a badge of honour and realise you don't need to post personal offensive remarks in such a case.

You will come to understand this if you hang around a bit longer smile

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 23rd March
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Can't be bothered with your crap replies

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 23rd March
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Monkeylegend said:
None taken hehe


"Nope, not fishy at all...................."

Doesn't actually mean that, and a whoosh parrot is awarded for somebody who has missed the obvious or who has been taken in by such a post.

All done in good fun and usually reciprocated in similar fashion by the poster who has been fooled.

Look on it as a badge of honour and realise you don't need to post personal offensive remarks in such a case.

You will come to understand this if you hang around a bit longer smile
Not personal offence remarks, why don't you read the topic correctly 🤔 of people who have been scammed by this company

DonkeyApple

55,311 posts

169 months

Saturday 23rd March
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Radio ham said:
Not personal offence remarks, why don't you read the topic correctly ?? of people who have been scammed by this company
Take a break. You've completely misunderstood and gone all angry. Just relax and reread what has been posted and you'll realise what you've done. smile

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 23rd March
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Why don't you take a break and leave it alone

Hondapower

10 posts

34 months

Saturday 23rd March
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DonkeyApple said:
Bingo. The first compo schemes will usually be backed by the people who first mugged off the old folk for the panels. But all the folk who bought panels back then are on the mug lists which don't cost much to buy and start cold calling to spank them on anything you like. They would have been being rinsed for home insulation, trying to be sold ASHP and because they're very rich pickings for rinsing they'll get tapped for endless compo claims.

The key with these blokes was that they had no money when they were working and zero experience or ability with money. At the same time, they devoutly believe other people have lots of money and are making even more via savvy investing. They also are lifelong tabloid consumers and they live in small houses.

What you also know is that at the point at which they retire they will get access to the largest pot of money they have ever seen in their life and the key is to get as much of that sent to you before the idiot sends it to someone else or buys a motorhome.

First shot is to try and get them to just transfer all of their pension to you. If you manage that then you've just got all of their money so now own them. No one else can get to that money and you can take your time to take it all.

Next best thing is to get to work on the 25% tax free lump sum if they won't just give you their pension. That can be quite easy. These folk genuinely believe everyone else is invested and making bank as that's the only way to explain why that Gary next door has just got a new Kia and is going on a cruise next year. The perma tanned ponce. You can't get them into NFTs, crypto, meme stocks and all the crap you spank their grandkids with all day long ensuring they are losers for life but you've got a better hook for the oldies which is income not fabulous capital returns. They want income. Sell the dream of income that will allow them to live like Gary the ponce and you are off to the races.

So what do you get your idiot to buy? Well historically you obviously had time shares and in recent years you've had mini bonds where you get your idiot to think 10% a year on cash is something that exists and so they send their money to what they think is a cash bond allowing you to skim 30% immediately in fees but the remaining 70% can just be spent of cars, helicopters, apartments, hookers and all the general fripperies that the stupid think the honest wealthy are actually spending their money on.

If you can't get them via financial services then you have your secondary income investments. These are investments which generate their return by saving you money. You could try and pitch cavity wall insulation or loft insulation but the real money has been the solar panel wheeze. It was government backed, no meaningful regulation so your income numbers could be wholly fabricated. You need to be a bit savvy when punting solar and batteries these days to people in employment, the scam needs to be more sophisticated but back then these fresh pensioners with their cash pile and zero common sense were rich pickings. Solar was brilliant. You just made up any price you liked based on just how dumb the mug on the opposite sofa looked. Made up any numbers when it came to the money saving bit and the stuff about how the evil Govt was going to pay you money was catnip to the plonkers.

Ex council house, some fancy concrete bits at the front to denote it's owned so no adult to step in and say no. Bloke inside has recently retired. No sign of a motorhome as of yet. Bingo. We are off to the races. We have a mark. Of course nowadays you do it electronically. You can find all the people who fit your search criteria and create an initial mugs list. You then hit that list with some soft entry stuff to filter, find and qualify your 'JML, Robert Dyas and all good home stores' punter. After which you are off.

In reality, it's not even that complex. These are the morons who fill out brightly coloured forms on low cost flights or pretty much any brightly coloured form that has a bit of gold ink and appeared to be offering something for free. Harvesting idiots has never been the difficult part but since these people started getting big private pensions and allowed to take lump sums out and even move the whole pot they've become a fantastic source of revenue to help smarter, younger people to have lots of holidays, big houses, send their kids to private school to get them new accents and so all that fancy not coughing in faces and holding cutlery stuff. And lots of holidays of course. And cars.

Of course the absolute end of the road is to finally, once you've spanked them for all the usual stuff is to spank them via the compo free money gig or equity release. Cos if you can get their home off them then why not.

Anyway, to just get to the point, sorry OP but your folks have been spanked. And more than once. And I'd wager they get an abnormal amount of junk Mail, special offers and telephone calls from people who aren't Auntie Ethel.

What you need to do is give them a good old fashioned hearty slap round the chops and work with them to get them off as many spank lists as you can and set rules for them re junk Mail and cold calls. You need to shock the fknuggets quite hard to break through that old man arrogance that they use to protect themselves from realising they're just a mug that's easily spanked.

Start by mocking Gary the perma tanned ponce because eggs as eggs you know that fknugget is getting spanked harder than your parents have.
Bravo. This should be in a government sponsored leaflet given to the children of all families just before their parents retire.

DonkeyApple

55,311 posts

169 months

Saturday 23rd March
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Radio ham said:
Why don't you take a break and leave it alone
Can I interest you in equity release?

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 23rd March
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No thank you Tim

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 23rd March
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DonkeyApple said:
Bingo. The first compo schemes will usually be backed by the people who first mugged off the old folk for the panels. But all the folk who bought panels back then are on the mug lists which don't cost much to buy and start cold calling to spank them on anything you like. They would have been being rinsed for home insulation, trying to be sold ASHP and because they're very rich pickings for rinsing they'll get tapped for endless compo claims.

The key with these blokes was that they had no money when they were working and zero experience or ability with money. At the same time, they devoutly believe other people have lots of money and are making even more via savvy investing. They also are lifelong tabloid consumers and they live in small houses.

What you also know is that at the point at which they retire they will get access to the largest pot of money they have ever seen in their life and the key is to get as much of that sent to you before the idiot sends it to someone else or buys a motorhome.

First shot is to try and get them to just transfer all of their pension to you. If you manage that then you've just got all of their money so now own them. No one else can get to that money and you can take your time to take it all.

Next best thing is to get to work on the 25% tax free lump sum if they won't just give you their pension. That can be quite easy. These folk genuinely believe everyone else is invested and making bank as that's the only way to explain why that Gary next door has just got a new Kia and is going on a cruise next year. The perma tanned ponce. You can't get them into NFTs, crypto, meme stocks and all the crap you spank their grandkids with all day long ensuring they are losers for life but you've got a better hook for the oldies which is income not fabulous capital returns. They want income. Sell the dream of income that will allow them to live like Gary the ponce and you are off to the races.

So what do you get your idiot to buy? Well historically you obviously had time shares and in recent years you've had mini bonds where you get your idiot to think 10% a year on cash is something that exists and so they send their money to what they think is a cash bond allowing you to skim 30% immediately in fees but the remaining 70% can just be spent of cars, helicopters, apartments, hookers and all the general fripperies that the stupid think the honest wealthy are actually spending their money on.

If you can't get them via financial services then you have your secondary income investments. These are investments which generate their return by saving you money. You could try and pitch cavity wall insulation or loft insulation but the real money has been the solar panel wheeze. It was government backed, no meaningful regulation so your income numbers could be wholly fabricated. You need to be a bit savvy when punting solar and batteries these days to people in employment, the scam needs to be more sophisticated but back then these fresh pensioners with their cash pile and zero common sense were rich pickings. Solar was brilliant. You just made up any price you liked based on just how dumb the mug on the opposite sofa looked. Made up any numbers when it came to the money saving bit and the stuff about how the evil Govt was going to pay you money was catnip to the plonkers.

Ex council house, some fancy concrete bits at the front to denote it's owned so no adult to step in and say no. Bloke inside has recently retired. No sign of a motorhome as of yet. Bingo. We are off to the races. We have a mark. Of course nowadays you do it electronically. You can find all the people who fit your search criteria and create an initial mugs list. You then hit that list with some soft entry stuff to filter, find and qualify your 'JML, Robert Dyas and all good home stores' punter. After which you are off.

In reality, it's not even that complex. These are the morons who fill out brightly coloured forms on low cost flights or pretty much any brightly coloured form that has a bit of gold ink and appeared to be offering something for free. Harvesting idiots has never been the difficult part but since these people started getting big private pensions and allowed to take lump sums out and even move the whole pot they've become a fantastic source of revenue to help smarter, younger people to have lots of holidays, big houses, send their kids to private school to get them new accents and so all that fancy not coughing in faces and holding cutlery stuff. And lots of holidays of course. And cars.

Of course the absolute end of the road is to finally, once you've spanked them for all the usual stuff is to spank them via the compo free money gig or equity release. Cos if you can get their home off them then why not.

Anyway, to just get to the point, sorry OP but your folks have been spanked. And more than once. And I'd wager they get an abnormal amount of junk Mail, special offers and telephone calls from people who aren't Auntie Ethel.

What you need to do is give them a good old fashioned hearty slap round the chops and work with them to get them off as many spank lists as you can and set rules for them re junk Mail and cold calls. You need to shock the fknuggets quite hard to break through that old man arrogance that they use to protect themselves from realising they're just a mug that's easily spanked.

Start by mocking Gary the perma tanned ponce because eggs as eggs you know that fknugget is getting spanked harder than your parents have.
There is many scams going on as been shown on the BBC RIP off Britain for example

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 23rd March
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Your quote

Anyway, to just get to the point, sorry OP but your folks have been spanked. And more than once. And I'd wager they get an abnormal amount of junk Mail, special offers and telephone calls from people who aren't Auntie Ethel.

Not many are tech savvy, yet I am and don't get any junk email that's because I have set my settings to receive emails from my contacts. Even when get phone calls that just know how to deal with it as block the number

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Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 23 March 13:09