lloyds shares rights issue price fall help pls guys

lloyds shares rights issue price fall help pls guys

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matsmith

1,166 posts

210 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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from reading the lloyds RNS here is the paragraph that would apply:

Any shares not taken up by Qualifying Shareholders (or otherwise treated as not having been taken up pursuant to the terms of the Placing and Compensatory Open Offer) are expected to be placed in the market by the Joint Bookrunners (Citi, J.P. Morgan Cazenove and UBS) at the conclusion of the open offer process at a price not less than the 38.43 pence offer price plus associated placing expenses (the "Rump Placing"). Any proceeds of the Rump Placing in excess of the 38.43 pence open offer price (plus expenses) will be distributed on a pro rata basis to those Shareholders who did not take up their entitlement (in whole or in part) under the Placing and Compensatory Open Offer. Accordingly there will no longer be an excess application facility (pursuant to which Qualifying Shareholders would have been able to apply for additional new shares over and above their pro rata entitlement in the Placing and Compensatory Open Offer). The Placing and Compensatory Open Offer will be fully underwritten by HM Treasury.


so it seems that any shares that arent taken up by shareholders will be sold and any money over the 38.4p plus expenses will be given to the shareholders who didnt take up their full entitlement

as for how they will give her this money (assuming there will be any ofcourse), id have thought it would be credited as cash to her stockbroker account

when? i dont know, but the deadline for accepting the issue is noon on June 5 so i suppose you could assume around 2 or 3 weeks after this date?

Hobo

5,768 posts

247 months

Thursday 21st May 2009
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Just out of interest, what is the reason for not taking up the offer ? Seems slightly odd to me.

citychap26

1,307 posts

231 months

Thursday 21st May 2009
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That's fooking mental not taking up the offer.

I am bloody p*ssed off with Natwest Stockbrokers for messing up my trade with BARC @ 50p . Was too busy at work to call them and missed the boat.

However Lloyds at 39p is a steal.

Hobo

5,768 posts

247 months

Friday 22nd May 2009
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Regardless of whether they drop or not, at 38p I suspect if you didn't take up the option you would look back in a few years time & think ...................... doh.

Hobo

5,768 posts

247 months

Friday 22nd May 2009
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In most cases you are correct, however the share offer was open to all I understand who held shares up to 20th May & as such there are obviously also a number of people who have not paid greatly over the offer price (anyone who purchase later than 20th Jan at which point the share price hit 43p).

Mclovin

1,679 posts

199 months

Friday 22nd May 2009
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if their such a great buy why are they keeping the stress tests secret when the us released theirs...?

Hobo

5,768 posts

247 months

Friday 22nd May 2009
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Yes, I understand that they could have been sold at nearly £1.20 within last week or so, however from a personal point of view my recent purchases are purely speculative & I'm in for a decent term. As such the offer is a no brainer.

matsmith

1,166 posts

210 months

Friday 22nd May 2009
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Mclovin said:
if their such a great buy why are they keeping the stress tests secret when the us released theirs...?
absolutely mclovin

barclays results were released pretty quick too

dibbly_dobbler

11,276 posts

198 months

Sunday 24th May 2009
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anonymous said:
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Nice write up Robin - thanks thumbup

I have been pondering what to do myself. As a staff member I already have a large number of LBG shares (large relative to the rest of my holdings anyway wink ) so I was leaning towards do nowt and wait for the cheque (then stick that in my ISA).

Any thoughts ?

NoelWatson

11,710 posts

243 months

Monday 25th May 2009
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dibbly_dobbler said:
anonymous said:
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Nice write up Robin - thanks thumbup

I have been pondering what to do myself. As a staff member I already have a large number of LBG shares (large relative to the rest of my holdings anyway wink ) so I was leaning towards do nowt and wait for the cheque (then stick that in my ISA).

Any thoughts ?
Yes - eggs in one basket

johnfm

13,668 posts

251 months

Monday 1st June 2009
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Back to this - any views on whether price will fall or rise on the issue?


Hobo

5,768 posts

247 months

Monday 1st June 2009
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I'd have thought fall, but still took up the option at 38p as can only see this as a winner long term.