Business Loan

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no-worries88

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1,817 posts

199 months

Thursday 11th June 2009
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The opportunity has come up, for me to buy a business.
Its currently owned by my best mates sister,who sadly is dying of cancer.
The business is valued at £155k excluding current stock, but if i want it,i can buy the business now for £100k.

What i am wondering,if i present a business plan,and all the accounts etc,much chance of a business loan in this current climate?
Profit-wise is £2500 upwards per week,which is obviously shown in the books,which go back 7 years.

New to owning businesses,so go easy on me please.

C. Grimsley

1,364 posts

196 months

Thursday 11th June 2009
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I would have thought you would get the loan showing all the books but you may have to put your home up as a security.

What sort of business is it by the way?

Carl

bazking69

8,620 posts

191 months

Thursday 11th June 2009
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Lending is starting to flow again after everyone put the shutters down in the panic.
If you can prove that the business MAKES 10k a month then I can't see them having any reason not to help you out.
One thing though, where did the valuation come from.

bazking69

8,620 posts

191 months

Thursday 11th June 2009
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Sounds like a brilliant chance if that profit figure is a genuine and sustainable one too. Best of luck!

VX Foxy

3,962 posts

244 months

Thursday 11th June 2009
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With a convincing business plan, I'm sure you'll find a loan (o/d may be better) - but I'd be amazed if the bank don't want security. Good luck!

no-worries88

Original Poster:

1,817 posts

199 months

Thursday 11th June 2009
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The business is a Thai restaurant,thing is i have nothing to secure the loan on,i have an f355 which is only worth £35,000 (not even that really,because thats what i paid) i have the money to buy it outright,but then id have no money left at all,so......
And dont own property,i rent.

Wacky Racer

38,264 posts

248 months

Thursday 11th June 2009
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no-worries88 said:
The opportunity has come up, for me to buy a business.
Its currently owned by my best mates sister,who sadly is dying of cancer.
The business is valued at £155k excluding current stock, but if i want it,i can buy the business now for £100k.

What i am wondering,if i present a business plan,and all the accounts etc,much chance of a business loan in this current climate?
Profit-wise is £2500 upwards per week,which is obviously shown in the books,which go back 7 years.

New to owning businesses,so go easy on me please.
Gross profit or net profit?

There is a big difference.

Don't rush into this, a fool and his (banks) money are soon parted.........smile

VX Foxy

3,962 posts

244 months

Thursday 11th June 2009
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no-worries88 said:
i have the money to buy it outright
You could secure an o/d on cash in bank. Don't see the point in a loan if you have cash??

no-worries88

Original Poster:

1,817 posts

199 months

Thursday 11th June 2009
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VX Foxy said:
no-worries88 said:
i have the money to buy it outright
You could secure an o/d on cash in bank. Don't see the point in a loan if you have cash??
sorry,but o/d?

SirRantsalot

20,235 posts

187 months

Thursday 11th June 2009
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no-worries88 said:
VX Foxy said:
no-worries88 said:
i have the money to buy it outright
You could secure an o/d on cash in bank. Don't see the point in a loan if you have cash??
sorry,but o/d?
Think he means an overdraft.

Matt UK

17,764 posts

201 months

Thursday 11th June 2009
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http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/forum.asp?h=0&a...

Can't help myself, but try posting in here - there seems to be a lot of business owners who may be able to help you out.

AyBee

10,555 posts

203 months

Thursday 11th June 2009
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If you're that confident in the profits, can you not put your own money into it, sell the f355 for now and then you have the business and the £30k that the car owes you to live on for the next 10 months while the business pays for itself?

VX Foxy

3,962 posts

244 months

Friday 12th June 2009
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SirRantsalot said:
Think he means an overdraft.
yes

mikefacel

610 posts

189 months

Friday 12th June 2009
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You might want to think about finding a business partner who is willing to sump up say half the cash - try local chambers of commerce or your local Business Link.

With that sort of return banks should be willing to help, but as said above they may ask for your home as security. I can only strongly suggest you do not put your home at risk - I managed to finance and grow a business without putting our home up as collateral even though the bank kept asking for me to do so - they still gave us a loan and overdraft facility.

I would also strongly suggest you look at current trading in particular - the last few months. Recessions can really hit the restaurant trade and a drop of say only 10% in sales can lead to a much, much bigger drop in profits. Even if people go to restaurants they might now skip starters or not order wine, etc. Be particularly careful with the lease too. All the best anyway.

johnfm

13,668 posts

251 months

Monday 22nd June 2009
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Nobody has mentioned - is the (unfortunately) dying woman key to the success of the business?

The profitability will change if you need to get a couple of decent Thai chefs in etc etc

You could also structure the deal in such a way as you pay £50k up front and the other £50 contingent on the revenues being what they project.

Eric Mc

122,183 posts

266 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2009
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How much due dilligence work have you carried out?


You say the business is valued at £155,0000 - although being offered at £100,000).
How have these figures been aroved at?
Have you seen a number of years' accounts?
What are the most recent accounts prepared?
Are there any impending changes likely to occur in the near future - like lease renewal on the premises, for instance.
Are there any staff issues?
Do you know anything aboutr running a Thai restaurant (or any restaurant or any business for that matter)?