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gregf40

1,114 posts

116 months

Friday 28th November 2014
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jfbrin said:
Long awaited mining licence expected shortly. Bulletin board on iii is buzzing with excitement.
How many times have we heard this before?

Investing in these minnow miners really is as close to gambling as you can get.

My advice would be don't touch them with a barge pole...and this is coming from someone who has made a successful living investing in start ups!

Mattt

16,661 posts

218 months

Friday 28th November 2014
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QFI AGM today: http://www.quadrisefuels.com/sites/default/files/Q...

2015 will be an interesting year as they enter the commercial phase!

K12beano

20,854 posts

275 months

Friday 28th November 2014
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gregf40 said:
.... don't touch them with a barge pole...
....and consider, instead, investing in barge-pole-manufacturers...

Jonboy_t

5,038 posts

183 months

Friday 28th November 2014
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Mattt said:
QFI AGM today: http://www.quadrisefuels.com/sites/default/files/Q...

2015 will be an interesting year as they enter the commercial phase!
I was hoping to go this year but couldn't get out of work so I followed as much as I could on the iii.co.uk BB in between more pointless meetings.

There seemed to be a lot of 'we can't comment on that yet' type answers. I know NDA's will prohibit most things, but it's annoying the hell out of me - I want my good news before Christmas!!

Skyedriver

17,868 posts

282 months

Friday 28th November 2014
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Jonboy_t said:
Mattt said:
QFI AGM today: http://www.quadrisefuels.com/sites/default/files/Q...

2015 will be an interesting year as they enter the commercial phase!
I was hoping to go this year but couldn't get out of work so I followed as much as I could on the iii.co.uk BB in between more pointless meetings.

There seemed to be a lot of 'we can't comment on that yet' type answers. I know NDA's will prohibit most things, but it's annoying the hell out of me - I want my good news before Christmas!!
Having lost out once and sitting on a second at the moment I hope they turn around soon.
I keep getting tempted to incease my stock - 3rd time lucky or just throwing more money away. Time will tell, I have great faith in the product but wonder if its unlikely to move before oil prices climb back towards $90+.


Jonboy_t

5,038 posts

183 months

Friday 28th November 2014
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Skyedriver said:
Having lost out once and sitting on a second at the moment I hope they turn around soon.
I keep getting tempted to incease my stock - 3rd time lucky or just throwing more money away. Time will tell, I have great faith in the product but wonder if its unlikely to move before oil prices climb back towards $90+.
I guess it depends on how long term you want. Hold until 2017 when everything is (hopefully) tied up and I'm confident a buy out will see £3+ per share.

Shorter term, we could have a decent rise based on the commitment to have refiners in place and ready by the end of 2014, but a jigsaw ain't finished til the last piece is in place... smile

northandy

3,496 posts

221 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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Shnozz said:
http://www.lawgazette.co.uk/practice/quindell-dire...

Interesting. "Missed" a margin call on 200k at £0.15.
Interesting in what sense?

trashbat

6,006 posts

153 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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The 15p refers to their technical par value, originally and usually 1p, but after Quindell's consolidation, 15p.

It has nothing to do with the bid/ask price.

jfbrin

415 posts

172 months

Sunday 30th November 2014
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gregf40 said:
jfbrin said:
Long awaited mining licence expected shortly. Bulletin board on iii is buzzing with excitement.
How many times have we heard this before?

Investing in these minnow miners really is as close to gambling as you can get.

My advice would be don't touch them with a barge pole...and this is coming from someone who has made a successful living investing in start ups!
I respect your opinion Greg and from your background, you are obviously no stranger to risk. As an early investor in Amazon, I am sure you had to take a fairly calculated view with that investment as on occasion, IIRC it had some bad times during its early years.

Investing in anything carries risk and by researching the prospects as thoroughly as possible, one can reduce that risk to an extent which then allows us to decided whether or not we should back it. Mining is littered with disasters but occasionally, with the right management, appropriate alignment of directors' interests and promising resources, the odd one can be successful. "Caveat emptor" for sure but maybe......just maybe......

trashbat

6,006 posts

153 months

Sunday 30th November 2014
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The thing is, the longer term posters on here have not just heard it before, but done it before, and usually lost. Go back a year and have a look. Now you can go down that whole well-trodden gambler's route of 'but it could be different for me this time' but it requires an explanation of why you really are a beautiful and unique snowflake.

egomeister

6,701 posts

263 months

Sunday 30th November 2014
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jfbrin said:
Bulletin board on iii is buzzing with excitement.
This should be enough of a signal to say avoid!

gregf40

1,114 posts

116 months

Sunday 30th November 2014
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jfbrin said:
I respect your opinion Greg and from your background, you are obviously no stranger to risk. As an early investor in Amazon, I am sure you had to take a fairly calculated view with that investment as on occasion, IIRC it had some bad times during its early years.

Investing in anything carries risk and by researching the prospects as thoroughly as possible, one can reduce that risk to an extent which then allows us to decided whether or not we should back it. Mining is littered with disasters but occasionally, with the right management, appropriate alignment of directors' interests and promising resources, the odd one can be successful. "Caveat emptor" for sure but maybe......just maybe......
The problem is - this chart is all too common...



And you can bet it is the private investors who end up getting burnt.

TheLordJohn

5,746 posts

146 months

Sunday 30th November 2014
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gregf40 said:
How many times have we heard this before?

Investing in these minnow miners really is as close to gambling as you can get.

My advice would be don't touch them with a barge pole...and this is coming from someone who has made a successful living investing in start ups!
Probably the most ridiculous question you'll ever be asked, but how do you choose who to invest in with regards to start ups?
Why did you invest in Amazon? Where do you look for guidance with your decision making? (Complete newbie, just interested).
The only trading I've done was a couple of grand I could afford to lose in RMG. Made a lbit. Never bothered since! Lol.

Thanks in advance, Stuart.

twinturboz

1,278 posts

178 months

Monday 1st December 2014
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That damn flash crash in Apple stopped me out today. Oh well will need to stalk a re-entry position. Sometimes stop limits are an ass.

burwoodman

18,709 posts

246 months

Monday 1st December 2014
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just to add if anyone here is buying amazon as a long hold you're soon going to lose your investment. ponzi scheme

burwoodman

18,709 posts

246 months

Monday 1st December 2014
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gregf40 said:
Pete102 said:
If you dont mind me asking, what is your rating on Amazon at the moment? Buy? Sell? Avoid?
I'd certainly have it as part of a portfolio. I think we will see 400 again in the next couple of months.

I'd personally avoid Facebook, Twitter, Netflix.
No offence gregg but as a play i would go short amazon and long babba . Ironically you mention other companies that make money and amazon doesn't. If you made some good cash early on good for yo but to suggest it's a winner is a bit tenuous

gregf40

1,114 posts

116 months

Monday 1st December 2014
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burwoodman said:
just to add if anyone here is buying amazon as a long hold you're soon going to lose your investment. ponzi scheme
I assume you've remortgaged your house to short it then?

vescaegg

25,549 posts

167 months

Monday 1st December 2014
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burwoodman said:
No offence gregg but as a play i would go short amazon and long babba . Ironically you mention other companies that make money and amazon doesn't. If you made some good cash early on good for yo but to suggest it's a winner is a bit tenuous
Sure rofl

So this good cash was 'early on'? Has their performance for the last 15 years been anything other than spectacular?

Do you have a Ferrari F40? (not suggesting it's all down to that Greg)

burwoodman

18,709 posts

246 months

Monday 1st December 2014
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gregf40 said:
burwoodman said:
just to add if anyone here is buying amazon as a long hold you're soon going to lose your investment. ponzi scheme
I assume you've remortgaged your house to short it then?
Nope. I only play with money i can afford to lose. Im not in any stocks currently. Private companies cash yield 25% min is all im keen on

gregf40

1,114 posts

116 months

Monday 1st December 2014
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burwoodman said:
gregf40 said:
burwoodman said:
just to add if anyone here is buying amazon as a long hold you're soon going to lose your investment. ponzi scheme
I assume you've remortgaged your house to short it then?
Nope. I only play with money i can afford to lose. Im not in any stocks currently. Private companies cash yield 25% min is all im keen on
But I thought you said it was a ponzi scheme and everyone long was going to lose all their money?

Are you admitting you could be wrong and aren't prepared to put your money where your mouth is? wink
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