Premium Bonds - Not a bean for months now!!!!

Premium Bonds - Not a bean for months now!!!!

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Aiminghigh123

2,720 posts

69 months

Sunday 4th April 2021
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I still don’t get the draw of premium bonds?

The above is 2.1% if you get the same every month for a year. Most seem to be 0.5-1.5%

Can get 1.1% from a nationwide savings account.

Or why not buy Shell shares?

I’ve had £100 dividends on £4200 since August last year.

BP same on £3500.

Plus my investment is up 30% and 40% respectfully.


Legacywr

12,136 posts

188 months

Sunday 4th April 2021
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Aiminghigh123 said:
I still don’t get the draw of premium bonds?

The above is 2.1% if you get the same every month for a year. Most seem to be 0.5-1.5%

Can get 1.1% from a nationwide savings account.

Or why not buy Shell shares?

I’ve had £100 dividends on £4200 since August last year.

BP same on £3500.

Plus my investment is up 30% and 40% respectfully.
It’s a lottery that you can’t lose, so why not?

Oh... and nowt on £50k for me hehe

2 GKC

1,899 posts

105 months

Sunday 4th April 2021
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Aiminghigh123 said:
I still don’t get the draw of premium bonds?

The above is 2.1% if you get the same every month for a year. Most seem to be 0.5-1.5%

Can get 1.1% from a nationwide savings account.

Or why not buy Shell shares?

I’ve had £100 dividends on £4200 since August last year.

BP same on £3500.

Plus my investment is up 30% and 40% respectfully.
It’s a crap long term investment but a good place to put some money short term. Zero risk, pretty much instant access and a chance to win a few quid.

witteringon

1,518 posts

41 months

Sunday 4th April 2021
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Aiminghigh123 said:
I still don’t get the draw of premium bonds?

The above is 2.1% if you get the same every month for a year. Most seem to be 0.5-1.5%

Can get 1.1% from a nationwide savings account.

Or why not buy Shell shares?

I’ve had £100 dividends on £4200 since August last year.

BP same on £3500.

Plus my investment is up 30% and 40% respectfully.
The 'draw' of premium bonds is that it is a relatively safe form of gambling and tax free if you're lucky enough to win big.

Why not buy Shell shares? Because you would have lost a shed load of money if you bought them at the wrong time - and the divi is crap now, anyway

Aiminghigh123

2,720 posts

69 months

Sunday 4th April 2021
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witteringon said:
he 'draw' of premium bonds is that it is a relatively safe form of gambling and tax free if you're lucky enough to win big.

Why not buy Shell shares? Because you would have lost a shed load of money if you bought them at the wrong time - and the divi is crap now, anyway
How is it crap? On my investment its working out at 4.8% a year tax free as it’s in ISA. Just the dividends itself not the gain in share price.

On Martin Lewis calculator if I invest £20k in premium bonds over 5 years I would expect back around £750 as an average.

witteringon

1,518 posts

41 months

Sunday 4th April 2021
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Aiminghigh123 said:
How is it crap? On my investment its working out at 4.8% a year tax free as it’s in ISA. Just the dividends itself not the gain in share price.

On Martin Lewis calculator if I invest £20k in premium bonds over 5 years I would expect back around £750 as an average.
OK, perhaps not crap, but the divi now is half what it was in previous years and the investment is risky - if you had bought £50K at the top of the market last year and were forced to sell at the low point you would have lost almost half your money.

Its a gamble!

Aiminghigh123

2,720 posts

69 months

Sunday 4th April 2021
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witteringon said:
OK, perhaps not crap, but the divi now is half what it was in previous years and the investment is risky - if you had bought £50K at the top of the market last year and were forced to sell at the low point you would have lost almost half your money.

Its a gamble!
Yes I guess in that situation that would be a bad deal.

So short term premium bonds seem ok and according to Martin Lewis over £5k premium bonds can be worth it.

My Shell and BP I plan on leaving for 20 years by which time it should have doubled plus a bit on just the dividends alone.

Obviously like you said it’s a bit more of a gamble. Then again I did read that premium bond payments were cut in December so I guess everything is “subject to change”

robuk

2,220 posts

190 months

Sunday 4th April 2021
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Aiminghigh123 said:
Can get 1.1% from a nationwide savings account.
Which account is that?

cuprabob

14,638 posts

214 months

Sunday 4th April 2021
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sociopath

3,433 posts

66 months

Sunday 4th April 2021
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Only £25 this month on 50k

So £125 in 2021 so far, not great but it puts beer on the table

Sochaux

140 posts

74 months

Sunday 4th April 2021
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£50 on £35,000.

£150 so far in 2021.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,386 posts

150 months

Sunday 4th April 2021
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Aiminghigh123 said:
Or why not buy Shell shares?

I’ve had £100 dividends on £4200 since August last year.

BP same on £3500.

Plus my investment is up 30% and 40% respectfully.
Is that all? Why bother with Shell and BP. You could do far better than that sticking it all on red at the casino.

the tribester

2,401 posts

86 months

Sunday 4th April 2021
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robuk said:
Aiminghigh123 said:
Can get 1.1% from a nationwide savings account.
Which account is that?
It's not a straightforward 1.1%.

You have to be an existing Nationwide customer AND transfer in >£10,000 to qualify for a bonus of £50 to make 1.1% on £10,000.

Ridealong

542 posts

70 months

Monday 5th April 2021
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Zero on £30k unf@%£ing believable mad

ACCYSTAN

760 posts

121 months

Monday 5th April 2021
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Is the Maximum holding still £100k?

Crafty_

13,289 posts

200 months

Monday 5th April 2021
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ACCYSTAN said:
Is the Maximum holding still £100k?
50k per account, so 100k if both you and the missus have one.

I think the poster above is missing the point, premium bonds are not a "instead of" investment they are an "as well as". Better to hold cash there than a current account..
There are all sorts of investments you could tie capital up in, but doing so introduces risk and potentially reduces flexibility.

duckson

1,242 posts

182 months

Monday 5th April 2021
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duckson said:
Nothing on a smidge over £20k.

(First draw there is anything more than an approx hundred quid in).
2nd draw on just over £20k, £0 again.

Chester draws

1,412 posts

110 months

Monday 5th April 2021
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last month Chester draws said:
In for next month's draw.

End of Feb I put £25k in. According to statistics and probability, I'm likely to "win" nothing in April.

Let's see.
Statistics and probability is correct. Nothing on that £25k.

But I found another £10k so next month should be a prize given the odds are 35,000 to 1 or thereabouts.

Planet Claire

3,321 posts

209 months

Monday 5th April 2021
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J210 said:
Planet Claire said:
£25 this month. Better than nothing.
How do you know you have won. When the results are not out till tomorrow ?
Got round to checking my account and I can reinstate my claim from the other day.

Lagom

544 posts

62 months

Monday 5th April 2021
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Had my worst month in a long time ...

On £50k:
June 2020 - £25
July 2020 - £25
Aug 2020 - £150 (6 x £25)

on £100k 'family' holding:
Sept 2020 - £150 (6 x £25)
Oct 2020 - £150 (6 x £25)
Nov 2020 - £50 (2 x £25)
Dec 2020 - £100 (4 x £25)
Jan 2021 - £50 (2 x £25)
Feb 2021 - £175 (7 x £25)
Mar 2021 - £150 (6 x £25)
Apr 2021 - £25