Our build thread, renovation and extension

Our build thread, renovation and extension

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Muncher

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12,219 posts

250 months

Saturday 10th November 2012
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Front bay window roof completed




Almost all of the ridge tiles on








Flu needs to be straightened a bit


Lead valley


Inner face with sun tunnel


Bigger lead valley!


Frames for the bifolding doors and french doors hanging from the scaffolding


Sky dish and aerial cabling tidied


The roofers are back for a little bit on Monday morning to complete the ridge tiles then they are done. Then the plan is to drop the scaffolding one level to allow us to tidy up the brickwork in places, fill in the holes left by some of the putlogs and silicone the windows. We want to move that on reasonably quickly as we can't fit the bifolds or the french doors until the scaffolding is out of the way.


BigTom85

1,927 posts

172 months

Saturday 10th November 2012
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Nearly there with the shell then, it really is looking first class! You must be pleased. smile

What else needs doing to the shell? Just steam cleaning the brickwork or anything else?

Muncher

Original Poster:

12,219 posts

250 months

Sunday 11th November 2012
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- Point gap where the extension joints the old house
- Point around windows and cills
- Point where scaffolding holes are
- Cut further slots for helifix bars round the front and point
- Replace a couple of damaged bricks
- Silicone round windows
- Cut soffit vent holes
- Remove course of bricks below bifold doors and French doors to fit frame
- Remove cast back door sill and construct new base for step

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 11th November 2012
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Looks cracking Muncher, you must be well chuffed! Who did you get to do your leadwork? We need to get some done before that thatch goes on.
Are you helifixing aswell? We've had ours done now, it's a bit expensive but if it's stops and guarantees against movement then I don't care wink
It'll be brilliant so see that scaffold drop, I can't wait - then we can compare some before and after pics, you kind of forget what it looked like to start with.

Muncher

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12,219 posts

250 months

Sunday 11th November 2012
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Yeah it's looking really good Emma, I just want to get all the external stuff done and it sealed so that when it snows we can carry on in relative comfort.

The lead work was done by the roofers, S Cahillane & Son. They've done a really good job, I'm sure they'd travel to do yours if you wanted. Everything is done properly with them.

The Helifix is horrendously expensive for what it is, we've got about 10 rods in the inner skin around cracks and will probably have the same again on the outer skin.

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 11th November 2012
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Ours went from £25K to just under £8 after Stu had done his magic. He could have done ours but then we wouldn't have got the warranty with it. £8K for two days work. Nice...

Muncher

Original Poster:

12,219 posts

250 months

Sunday 11th November 2012
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Ours was about £400, fitting them is dead easy, certainly the insides. The special mortar sets absolutely rock hard, that's not going anywhere in a hurry!

Muncher

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12,219 posts

250 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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Bit of a slow week this week, my Dad has been taking a bit of a break and we are trying to work out a sequence that will lead to us getting the scaffolding down and the bifolding, French and back door in.

So I thought I would post a few of the costings so far, as its a subject that crops up here almost every day, often the figure quoted is £1,750 per square meter, but I won't be anywhere near that in the end.

The figures below are for the whole house, not just the extension. Some elements cover just the extension, some such as the roof and insulation are for the entire house. The extension is approx 115sqm and the existing house approx 96sqm.

Absolutely everything is included in this apart from architects and building control fees, my spreadsheets account for everything right down to petrol for the whacker plate.

I will only show you the elements that are completed and paid for as no doubt I would get calls of "you can't do it for that" for some of the elements that are yet to come.


Groundworks

Materials £3,034

Labour £430


Drainage

Materials £2,202

Labour £200


External Walls and Chimney

Materials £6,392

Labour £8,485


External Windows and Doors (whole house)

Materials £19,463

Labour £0



First Floor (joists,flooring, stud walls)

Materials £3,239

Labour £0



Steels and Lintels

Materials £2,476

Labour £0


Roof

Materials £8,800

Labour £7,152


Plant

Hire £2,690


I think that's around £370 per square meter to get the shell up and around £260 per meter in materials.


Irish

3,991 posts

240 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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Muncher said:
Bit of a slow week this week, my Dad has been taking a bit of a break and we are trying to work out a sequence that will lead to us getting the scaffolding down and the bifolding, French and back door in.

So I thought I would post a few of the costings so far, as its a subject that crops up here almost every day, often the figure quoted is £1,750 per square meter, but I won't be anywhere near that in the end.

The figures below are for the whole house, not just the extension. Some elements cover just the extension, some such as the roof and insulation are for the entire house. The extension is approx 115sqm and the existing house approx 96sqm.

Absolutely everything is included in this apart from architects and building control fees, my spreadsheets account for everything right down to petrol for the whacker plate.

I will only show you the elements that are completed and paid for as no doubt I would get calls of "you can't do it for that" for some of the elements that are yet to come.


Groundworks

Materials £3,034

Labour £430


Drainage

Materials £2,202

Labour £200


External Walls and Chimney

Materials £6,392

Labour £8,485


External Windows and Doors (whole house)

Materials £19,463

Labour £0



First Floor (joists,flooring, stud walls)

Materials £3,239

Labour £0



Steels and Lintels

Materials £2,476

Labour £0


Roof

Materials £8,800

Labour £7,152


Plant

Hire £2,690


I think that's around £370 per square meter to get the shell up and around £260 per meter in materials.
A credit to your organisation - direct labour and a bit of planning can save £££££ without compromising quality (actually you often get better quality).

Craikeybaby

10,417 posts

226 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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I've just read the whole thread, wow, what a great project!

Muncher

Original Poster:

12,219 posts

250 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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Roof complete now smile














Bifolding door frame in and partially fixed, I think this is going to be quite tricky to get right but we're getting there slowly!


Bathtub has arrived! smile




It's 1.85m long so is pretty big, lovely shape. I won't be using it much myself but it's a treat for my girlfriend, £759 on eBay which I think it a really good deal as most similar or inferior ones were a lot more expensive.


miniman

24,990 posts

263 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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One of those tile is wonky. 37th from the right, 8 rows down, looking from the bowling green.

GTO-3R

7,491 posts

214 months

Monday 19th November 2012
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miniman said:
One of those tile is wonky. 37th from the right, 8 rows down, looking from the bowling green.
rofl

Muncher

Original Poster:

12,219 posts

250 months

Monday 19th November 2012
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GTO-3R said:
rofl
tongue out

5potTurbo

12,548 posts

169 months

Monday 19th November 2012
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miniman said:
One of those tile is wonky. 37th from the right, 8 rows down, looking from the bowling green.
He's right about that, too. wink

PGM

2,168 posts

250 months

Monday 19th November 2012
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5potTurbo said:
miniman said:
One of those tile is wonky. 37th from the right, 8 rows down, looking from the bowling green.
He's right about that, too. wink
Best hold back the £15k until that's sorted, that's how things work in contracting now biggrin

Muncher

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12,219 posts

250 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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We're having a few nightmares with the kitchen layout at the moment, we are struggling to fit everything we want into there (although it is a big space) and the designs which people are coming back with either don't "work" or don't look special enough.

In the meantime, does anyone have any experience with the Neff Aqua-assist ovens and the Neff steam ovens? I am assuming the functionality of them is sufficiently different that it's still useful to have both of them?

singlecoil

33,690 posts

247 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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Muncher said:
We're having a few nightmares with the kitchen layout at the moment, we are struggling to fit everything we want into there (although it is a big space) and the designs which people are coming back with either don't "work" or don't look special enough.
Sounds interesting. I'd like to have a go at that. What sort of 'special' do you have in mind (that word having different meanings to different people in different contexts)? I don't just do Shaker style, BTW. Quite fancy having a go at something very modern.

Blakeatron

2,515 posts

174 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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^^ as he said, ultra modern or traditional? We are selling more modern handleless kitchens at the moment compared to all the other styles added together!

On the Neff ovens the aquasist is really quite special and really adds to the cooking - cant comment on the other sorry.

Muncher

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12,219 posts

250 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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I'll post up some plans later, I don't have them with me at the minute.

What we are looking to fit in:

Required spec:

- Hob on island facing fireplace
- Dishwasher, under counter sink (facing out of side window)
- Full height integrated fridge, full height integrated freezer
- Neff oven, combi oven, steam oven (all at chest height)
- 2x warming drawers
- Seating area for 4 stools, preferably higher than the island worktop.
- We like carousel units for the corners
- We like big, wide, deep drawers.
- Minimal wine racking, 8 bottles or so would be sufficient.

We want a mix of cabinet styles and colours, at least 2 different worktop colours. As for the kind of thing we like, generally we quite like the Callerton kitchens here:

http://www.google.com/search?q=callerton+deco&...

At the moment we are thinking square/boxey/wooden for the units on the walls and gloss, curved painted units for the island. The floor will be wood and as it is an open plan kitchen/lounge it has to look clean and smart.

Edited by Muncher on Tuesday 20th November 15:31