DIY Plastering

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anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 23rd March 2012
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I dont think DIY & Plastering ceiling, should be used in the same sentence.
Fair play if you want to give it a go!

VxDuncan

2,850 posts

235 months

Friday 23rd March 2012
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Done a fair amount of plastering - all the walls / ceilings in three rooms, selftought. But I did start off simple with window reveals, small sections of walls under windows, that sort of thing. I can get a pretty good finish (better than the "professional" plaster that did the front room, but it is hard work. You simply can't learn on a ceiling. You will be broken. Try and hold an arm up in the air for three hours and see how you get on. Then imagine the same pushing heavy plaster onto the ceiling...

You can teach yourself walls if you really read up and know what you're doing, but ceilings are a different kettle of fish.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

250 months

Friday 23rd March 2012
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VxDuncan said:
Then imagine the same pushing heavy plaster onto the ceiling...
'Mucking up' is the easy bit, it's floating it all off that I find really, really hard.

Miguel Alvarez

4,944 posts

171 months

Friday 23rd March 2012
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Pugster said:
Wheelrepairit said:
Good friend of mine thought the same as you.

His ceiling now looks like the alps inverted, with the tips sanded off where he has spent approx £30 on sanding pads to dry and flatten it, makes so much dust he ends up doing this in his pants with a tesco bag on his head.

Hes Irish, say no more.
rofl
And another rofl

stuartmmcfc

8,665 posts

193 months

Friday 23rd March 2012
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As an ex-plasterer i'm bound to try and build up the mystic and difficulty of doing the job but ceilings are tricky.
Obvious as it is, ceilings are upsidedown so unless you know what you're doing your arms ache from holding them in the air, even more than on walls, and plaster falls off , into your eyes!

A novice might attempt, and do a reasonable job, on a wall but ceilings- forget it laugh


if you do have a go, post some pics please!

Edited by stuartmmcfc on Friday 23 March 14:57

GTIR

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24,741 posts

267 months

Friday 23rd March 2012
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I think because I had years of watching my dad plaster as a kid I've got this idea that I can do it!

Will a Waitrose bag be ok?

kooky guy

582 posts

167 months

Friday 23rd March 2012
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We've just had a couple of ceilings done 'professionally' and I'm really disappointed at the finish.

No way they can just be pva'd and painted - looks like I've got days worth of filling and sanding to do before being at that stage - I do wonder if I could have done a better job myself, despite being a complete novice. At least we wouldn't have paid for it. Grr.

albatross

108 posts

157 months

Friday 23rd March 2012
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I've done loads of DIY plastering over the years, float and set, skimming walls and ceilings and some lime, these days I can't be ar5ed cos I'm out of practise and it's bloody hard work !

Definitely a job for a professional, preferably recommended by a friend

dickymint

24,418 posts

259 months

Friday 23rd March 2012
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sleep envy said:
VxDuncan said:
Then imagine the same pushing heavy plaster onto the ceiling...
'Mucking up' is the easy bit, it's floating it all off that I find really, really hard.
Why would you use a float? confused

sleep envy

62,260 posts

250 months

Saturday 24th March 2012
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I was taught by my uncle who was a plasterer and that's what he called it even though we used a trowel.

Possibly not the right term but it's still a black art to me which he makes look so frustratingly easy!

ParanoidAndroid

1,359 posts

284 months

Monday 26th March 2012
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Just had a 21' x 11' lounge, dining room, hall and downstairs cloakroom, 2 days £360. Did think about it myself but decided by the time I'd bought the bits, faffed it up a few times I'd probably end up paying someone to fix it anyway! Looks much better now but beware it does make rather a lot of mess.

HOGEPH

5,249 posts

187 months

Monday 26th March 2012
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You can either plaster really well, or not at all.

qube_TA

8,402 posts

246 months

Monday 26th March 2012
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I can do it reasonably, usually needs a bit of a tidy up though before I paint it.

However for what it costs, do all the groundwork yourself and just pay someone to give it the skim, will look much better.


GG89

3,527 posts

187 months

Monday 26th March 2012
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Taking the piss indeed, where are you, London?

BigTom85

1,927 posts

172 months

Monday 26th March 2012
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Well, I've done my share of paying for plastering, and had a good go myself.

For walls, yes they take practise, but I've come close to matching the final (painted) finish of the pros in my opinion. It might take me 5 times as long, need a bit of Easifill here and there to get it right, but I've been happy with my results.

Getting confident after doing a few rooms in various houses over the years, I tried the box room ceiling, new plasterboard over old, looking good, on with the skim. It was a steep learning curve. Oh my fking God its hard work to plaster a ceiling. It took a whole weekend and it looked so bad I ended up pulling the lot down and paying to have it re-done. Ceilings are for the pros only.

Saying that, I've had lots of ceilings done now, and I've always gone on recommendations, but I've never been entirely happy with a plastered ceiling, there's always a shadow here and there, the odd trowel mark etc. Still prefer it to Artex mind.

I've found with plasterers, you are paying for time. Plaster is so cheap, £4.50 a bag! To get good value from a plastering job they need a full day of work, not a day of waiting for plaster to go off.

To do my lounge (18ft x 18ft + ceiling) I was quoted £360 (2 days work). To do the downstairs hallway as well I was told another £40. Worth thinking about if you've got more for them to go at.

ETA: I got the impression even the pros don't really like doing ceilings, and will price accordingly...

Edited by BigTom85 on Monday 26th March 18:09

Muncher

12,219 posts

250 months

Monday 26th March 2012
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What's the general consensus on dry lining the walls and ceilings yourself, then getting a plasterer to apply the skin coat. I have around 800sqm to do, both walls and ceilings...

stuartmmcfc

8,665 posts

193 months

Monday 26th March 2012
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Muncher said:
What's the general consensus on dry lining the walls and ceilings yourself, then getting a plasterer to apply the skin coat. I have around 800sqm to do, both walls and ceilings...
I would have thought that anyone who'shard working and sensible could do that.
It all boils down to have much time you've got vs how little cash you've got to spare to afford someone to do it for you tbh.

magooagain

10,016 posts

171 months

Monday 26th March 2012
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Muncher said:
What's the general consensus on dry lining the walls and ceilings yourself, then getting a plasterer to apply the skin coat. I have around 800sqm to do, both walls and ceilings...
If you have 800 square metres to skim ? I will come over from France and skim it all for you.

Ceilings are something that i have allways found easy,the lads that have worked along side me were also excellent . I cant see any problem with ceilings. As allways preparation is the key to realising a perfect finish. 33 years expierience .

Muncher

12,219 posts

250 months

Monday 26th March 2012
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magooagain said:
If you have 800 square metres to skim ? I will come over from France and skim it all for you.

Ceilings are something that i have allways found easy,the lads that have worked along side me were also excellent . I cant see any problem with ceilings. As allways preparation is the key to realising a perfect finish. 33 years expierience .
Just double checked and it's 657sqm, less wall and window openings which I haven't accounted for.

ExChrispy Porker

16,947 posts

229 months

Monday 26th March 2012
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Miguel Alvarez said:
And another rofl
Just laughed out loud and woke the dog up ....