Induction Hobs
Discussion
From what I can tell, induction ovens are just conventional electric fan ovens with an additional induction hotplate at the bottom. Seems to be a way to reduce energy use. The only one I could find (apart from airline galley ovens) is made by Belling (not the finest brand)
e.g. http://www.belling.co.uk/built-in-ovens/single/bi6...
e.g. http://www.belling.co.uk/built-in-ovens/single/bi6...
dave_s13 said:
Nice idea but that would be a monumental waste of time imo.
Just buy a couple of these (or variation of whats available).
http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/products/4022282...
Cut your worktop with a suitable rebate and drop in place..sorted.
You won't get a 5 year g'tee with your home made one plus how would you control it?
That's the one I've got and it works a treat...oh and there is no Ikea branding on it anywhere, which is a bonus. just says SCHOTT Ceran in the corner.
Believe it or not, the idea of 2x4 ring hobs side by side has already crossed my mind. I'm thinking more along the lines of 3x2 ring domino hobs, spaced about 6" apart, as 4 ring 600 hobs squash everything together too much. You can only use 2 large pans on a 4 ring 600 hob, then 800+ 4 ring hobs triple/quadruple in price for what, a bit more glass? But two ring domino hobs are not much better, plus it starts to look cluttered. The idea is to create a 6+ ring hob that I could use 6 14" pots on should I choose, and they would be nicely spaced. The fact that it'd be a seamless work/cook area, and look great would just be a bonus. Just buy a couple of these (or variation of whats available).
http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/products/4022282...
Cut your worktop with a suitable rebate and drop in place..sorted.
You won't get a 5 year g'tee with your home made one plus how would you control it?
That's the one I've got and it works a treat...oh and there is no Ikea branding on it anywhere, which is a bonus. just says SCHOTT Ceran in the corner.
Plus like I said above, I don't like gimmicky touch controls, I want rotary control knobs. When will manufacturers of all sorts of products learn that while some people get a stiffy proportional to how many buttons and LED's you can cram on to something, a lot of people, in particular ones that use the appliance in question intensively, just want a simple control device? Yet only a couple of the cheapest induction hobs have knobs- from there on in it's LED's and touch sensors all the way. Same goes for everything- microwaves are a good example, they just need two dials for most peoples use, time and power, but most have more buttons than the kennedy space centre. You can't buy a quality appliance without it being unnecessarily complicated, until of course you get to pro catering gear then it's simple dials again.
hairyben said:
Believe it or not, the idea of 2x4 ring hobs side by side has already crossed my mind. I'm thinking more along the lines of 3x2 ring domino hobs, spaced about 6" apart, as 4 ring 600 hobs squash everything together too much. You can only use 2 large pans on a 4 ring 600 hob, then 800+ 4 ring hobs triple/quadruple in price for what, a bit more glass? But two ring domino hobs are not much better, plus it starts to look cluttered. The idea is to create a 6+ ring hob that I could use 6 14" pots on should I choose, and they would be nicely spaced. The fact that it'd be a seamless work/cook area, and look great would just be a bonus.
Plus like I said above, I don't like gimmicky touch controls, I want rotary control knobs. When will manufacturers of all sorts of products learn that while some people get a stiffy proportional to how many buttons and LED's you can cram on to something, a lot of people, in particular ones that use the appliance in question intensively, just want a simple control device? Yet only a couple of the cheapest induction hobs have knobs- from there on in it's LED's and touch sensors all the way. Same goes for everything- microwaves are a good example, they just need two dials for most peoples use, time and power, but most have more buttons than the kennedy space centre. You can't buy a quality appliance without it being unnecessarily complicated, until of course you get to pro catering gear then it's simple dials again.
To each their own and all that.Plus like I said above, I don't like gimmicky touch controls, I want rotary control knobs. When will manufacturers of all sorts of products learn that while some people get a stiffy proportional to how many buttons and LED's you can cram on to something, a lot of people, in particular ones that use the appliance in question intensively, just want a simple control device? Yet only a couple of the cheapest induction hobs have knobs- from there on in it's LED's and touch sensors all the way. Same goes for everything- microwaves are a good example, they just need two dials for most peoples use, time and power, but most have more buttons than the kennedy space centre. You can't buy a quality appliance without it being unnecessarily complicated, until of course you get to pro catering gear then it's simple dials again.
When the chuff would you ever need to have 6 pans going at once though!!
Anyway was expensive at the time as it was the top of the range Siemens five ring unit but would not go back, wonderful things and very controlable
hairyben said:
Plus like I said above, I don't like gimmicky touch controls, I want rotary control knobs.
I tend to agree - but in this instance knobs have to be cleaned round and clag will collect in the gaps.I have the Siemens Touchslide system which I reckon is the best of both worlds - flat but easy to choose any one of 20 power settings per ring.
69 coupe said:
I've a ceramic hob which works fine but not very controllable, would an induction hob fit straight in on the 32amp (i think) cooker wiring circuit or does it have to upgraded even more than whats needed for my ceramic?
well my new aeg 60cm cooker is going on the dedicated 32amp main. The problem probably won't be the fuse, but the wiring that supplies the cooker- someone much clevere will be along shortly, but its important to know whether you need 10mm or 6mm as a minimum!
69 coupe said:
I've a ceramic hob which works fine but not very controllable, would an induction hob fit straight in on the 32amp (i think) cooker wiring circuit or does it have to upgraded even more than whats needed for my ceramic?
Yeah it should be fine, under cooker load diversity calculation. (First 10 amps plus 30% of remaining load)Any ovens on the circuit as well?
hairyben said:
69 coupe said:
I've a ceramic hob which works fine but not very controllable, would an induction hob fit straight in on the 32amp (i think) cooker wiring circuit or does it have to upgraded even more than whats needed for my ceramic?
Yeah it should be fine, under cooker load diversity calculation. (First 10 amps plus 30% of remaining load)Any ovens on the circuit as well?
69 coupe said:
Yes, Indeset single fan oven on 13amp plug plugged into spur socket off cooker circuit, manual say max power absorbed 2250w-2400w both oven & ceramic hob work perfectly off the cooker circuit. would just be interested in fitting a induction hob.
Should note that the oven shouldn't be on a spur or socket, but hardwired into the cooker circuit, but yeah that would be permissible under diversity calc.hairyben said:
Should note that the oven shouldn't be on a spur or socket, but hardwired into the cooker circuit, but yeah that would be permissible under diversity calc.
Cheers, off to hunt a induction hob shortly. Regarding the electrics it was done a few years back by a sparks switched fcu to 13am socket, cooker circuit rcd in cu, probably redo kitchen in a couple of years concrete floors been a problem with wiring, will chase around kitchen when the time comes as ideally I want hob oven on other side of room.
69 coupe said:
Cheers, off to hunt a induction hob shortly.
Regarding the electrics it was done a few years back by a sparks switched fcu to 13am socket, cooker circuit rcd in cu, probably redo kitchen in a couple of years concrete floors been a problem with wiring, will chase around kitchen when the time comes as ideally I want hob oven on other side of room.
You'll probably find the oven isn't on the cooker circuit, but the ring (sockets) then? Fixed loads over 2kW shouldn't be on the ring but TBH it's not worth worrying about.Regarding the electrics it was done a few years back by a sparks switched fcu to 13am socket, cooker circuit rcd in cu, probably redo kitchen in a couple of years concrete floors been a problem with wiring, will chase around kitchen when the time comes as ideally I want hob oven on other side of room.
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