Wood burning stove fitting questions walls/flues etc

Wood burning stove fitting questions walls/flues etc

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jdw1234

6,021 posts

165 months

Wednesday 6th November 2013
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I didn't have time to get hands on with this so our quote is for a full turnkey installation. If you are more hands on I would expect it I certainly possible.

The stove for ours was circa 1350 so most of the cost is installation.

Out chimney is proper knackered and so with a more modern pad like yours I bet it would be easier.

Everyone raves about these stoves so I am looking forward to it.

Maybe check eBay for a stove as well?

Pesty

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41,233 posts

206 months

Wednesday 6th November 2013
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Ebay good idea.

Just found the Charnwood cove 2 which is a lot less ornate.

Pesty

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41,233 posts

206 months

Wednesday 6th November 2013
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Astroline by Dovre are lovely but out of my league I'm afraid.




Hmmm clearvue here with some pipe

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Clearview-Vision-500-mul...

Edited by Pesty on Wednesday 6th November 22:28

jdw1234

6,021 posts

165 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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Pesty said:
Astroline by Dovre are lovely but out of my league I'm afraid.




Hmmm clearvue here with some pipe

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Clearview-Vision-500-mul...

Edited by Pesty on Wednesday 6th November 22:28
Its at £800. I bought a brandnew one in a custom colour for £1350 (approx) on the weekend.

I don't know if £500 odd quid reduction is worth the trip to cornwall especially as it is 8 years old.

I.e. you might as well buy a new one and wait a bit to install it.


Pesty

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41,233 posts

206 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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Yeah would have to be in Cornwall wouldn't it (

worsy

3,497 posts

125 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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mk1fan said:
If the fire is rated over 5kW then you'll need an air supply (or one with an integrated sealed air supply).
And for all fires fitted to houses built since 2008.

Pesty

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41,233 posts

206 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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The aga I was looking at is rated at 4.7

Reading a bit more it may not be enough for the size of room. I'll get them out and see what they recommend for the room. The clearvue 500 looks good.

Sowler

223 posts

99 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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Stovax View 5 is a nice contemporary stove. It's what I have.

Craikeybaby

9,149 posts

175 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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We went for a Yeoman CL5, looks fairly modern.

Pesty

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41,233 posts

206 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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Thanks. Both those are exactly what I was after slightly favoring the stovax of the two.



Andehh

5,613 posts

156 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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Too all those of you in modern houses, did you ever considering re-using the (crude & insufficient) chimney, either knocking into it and expanding it or some other route?

I fancy having a wood burning stove in our '07 built house, but don't like the idea of having one internal chimney blocked up and a second one up the outside!

cold thursday

341 posts

78 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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I found this site very good. It helped me stop my builder from doing it all wrong.
(he still managed to fit the flue upside down though)

http://www.stovefittersmanual.co.uk/

tr7ster

143 posts

128 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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Lengthy post here but I hope it helps. I installed my own stove just under a year ago for a bit over the £1K mark all in (bar the hearth, which I'll come to later) and my house didn't have a chimney. Here's how I did it...

First off, I got a couple of quotes from local installers for a 6-7KW stove, twin-wall flue to suit and installation. Having almost recovered from the shock, I got hold of the relevant building regs documents (Document J for England, Scottish Technical Guidelines for up here, among others) and decided to do it myself. I then literally spent months and months poring over everything, looking at a whole pile of different websites, measuring stuff, remeasuring stuff, drawing scale diagrams etc.

Then when it was time to go ahead I scoured the web for the best deals I could find. I managed to get an ex-display Aarrow Ecoburn 7 multi-fuel stove from eBay for £560 delivered, including a £50 voucher to redeem against flue parts; it had a few light scratches on the top which weren't mentioned in the description so I negotiated a couple of aerosols of genuine Aarrow stove paint into the bargain, plus a voucher increase to £75 - I haven't bothered to paint it yet but have enough to coat it several times over so I'm sorted for the future. The twin-wall flue was always going to be the most expensive part of the installation....or so I thought. Another eBay auction win was a lightly used flue, apparently only a year old. Close examination of the photos revealed it to be genuine 6" internal Selkirk flue (well, SFL SMW as it's known now) painted matt black, comprising 5x1m lengths, 1x0.5m length, 1x135deg Tee, rotating cowl, 6" vitreous pipe adapter, wall brackets, locking bands etc - everything I'd need. OK so it was in Yorkshire and I live near Edinburgh, but for £460? Done deal. I needed a few other odds and sods obviously; a 1m length and 45deg bend of 5" vitreous flue, 5" to 6" adapter, fire cement, heatproof sealant, 45deg wall sleeve etc. Thankfully my £75 voucher went a long way towards these so it didn't cost me much more than that.

I decided to splash out on the hearth somewhat. Due to the style of my house, the flue had to go up the outside wall slightly off-centre to the middle of my lounge, and rather than add a second bend along the way I chose to offset the stove within the room slightly. To counteract this I went for an oversized hearth with the stove sitting very obviously to one side of it - the other side being an ideal, easy cleanable space for the log basket, fire irons etc. I wanted to go for a good Scottish product so chose a 1200x900, 60mm thick slab of beautiful Caithness slate. While I could have just cemented a few cheap slabs out of B&Q in place (the stove doesn't require a constructional hearth) they would have looked cheap; the slate cost as much as I paid for the flue pretty much, but it was absolutely worth it.

With all the other little things to make sure everything was compliant - fixed CO2 detector, permanent air vent (having a suspended floor made this easy as the airbricks provide way more flow than required), notice plate etc - my local council signed it off with no problems. As it sit typing this it's blazing away; SWMBO is just comfy, I'm about to pass out.

I can heartily recommend the the Aarrow Ecoburn stove. It's a doddle to light, very controllable, burns logs with a beautiful dancing flame, other solid fuels just as well, the glass stays clean, and absolutely belts out the heat. I also like the way it looks too!

Let me know if you have any questions about any part of the process, I'd be happy to answer them.

Ben

Simpo Two

70,819 posts

215 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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tr7ster said:
CO2 detector
CO


99/100 wink

tr7ster

143 posts

128 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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Simpo Two said:
CO


99/100 wink
Well spotted. Must be the heat wobble

Dan_The_Man

800 posts

189 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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We had a Charnwood C-6 fitted exactly like you want yours - we had no fireplace just a plain end wall. Cost was nearly £3K which included everything like fireplace, building regs etc, the most expensive part was the flue that had a couple of 45 degree bends to come out round the facia and continued up.

PurpleTurtle

3,729 posts

94 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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been lurking on this thread as I'm considering a log burner, saw this today, made me laugh!

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/wood-bu...

Simpo Two

70,819 posts

215 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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tr7ster said:
Simpo Two said:
CO

99/100 wink
Well spotted. Must be the heat wobble
Probably the CO building up un-noticed because you bought a CO2 detector by mistake nuts

cold thursday

341 posts

78 months

Friday 8th November 2013
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PurpleTurtle said:
been lurking on this thread as I'm considering a log burner, saw this today, made me laugh!

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/wood-bu...
THE purchase of a wood burning stove means that a middle class man’s life is no longer superficial.

He said: “I’ve got a heap of logs. Logs made from trees. Actual trees, from forests.

“I handle the logs.”

Malley had been concerned that his desk-based job, consumerist lifestyle and inability to stop thinking about money had left him somehow removed from the natural world.

He said: “Now that I’m burning wood on a regular basis, I feel that I’ve returned to a primal state. A sort of rugged innocence, if you will. laugh


Andehh

5,613 posts

156 months

Friday 8th November 2013
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tr7ster said:
Lengthy post here but I hope it helps. I installed my own stove just under a year ago for a bit over the £1K mark all in (bar the hearth, which I'll come to later) and my house didn't have a chimney. Here's how I did it...

Let me know if you have any questions about any part of the process, I'd be happy to answer them.

Ben
very interesting post mate! How old is your house? How did you deal with going through the wall/insulation/plasterboard etc - all stuff that doesn't like intense heat - just the flue sufficient?

Did you ever consider going through the house/hack open the wall to try and in-bed it in there?