Best Wifi enabled thermostat

Best Wifi enabled thermostat

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jgy6000

199 posts

171 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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B17NNS said:
What does it do that the others don't?
Saves me about £200 compared to the others on the market?

Oakey

27,593 posts

217 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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It can't control your boiler, that's something the others don't do!

B17NNS

18,506 posts

248 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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How does the system link to the boiler? Is there a room stat? A hub?

Is it a system or just fancy TRV's?

IrateNinja

767 posts

179 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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In the comments there is mention of Smart Boiler Controller, 'coming soon'.

Jobbo

12,973 posts

265 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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Eddh said:
Glad it's worked for you!

Interestingly my Drayton system has been faultless now for a couple of weeks and seems to be bedding in now after fiddling with it every other day at the start.

I'm still messing with schedules and adapting these to our lives, when we go to bed etc but all good so far!
My Drayton Wiser system had been fine too (after the initial fiddling because the control is so much finer than the old stat).

However, I thought I'd ask for a wifi extender because they send them out for free. Installed it last night and it was fine; this morning it can't connect to the main room stat in the hallway, despite the extender only being about 5ft away from that. Installing the extender seems to have messed up my system laugh

Since the rad stats are still happily connected it doesn't really matter; there's still heat demand so the unconnected room stat doesn't mean it'll be cold when I get home.

essayer

9,082 posts

195 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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IrateNinja said:
In the comments there is mention of Smart Boiler Controller, 'coming soon'.
It's pretty brave to go head to head with major players like Honeywell, Drayton, Nest without having some serious innovation to bring to the table.. "it looks nice" doesn't really cut it IMO

Oakey

27,593 posts

217 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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Seems like a massive oversight as well, what's the point in having controllable TRV's if you have to run the boiler manually in the meantime until they release (if they ever do) the bit that controls your boiler as well?

B17NNS

18,506 posts

248 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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Oakey said:
Seems like a massive oversight as well, what's the point in having controllable TRV's if you have to run the boiler manually in the meantime until they release (if they ever do) the bit that controls your boiler as well?
yes Another (non) kick starter.

brman

1,233 posts

110 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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B17NNS said:
Oakey said:
Seems like a massive oversight as well, what's the point in having controllable TRV's if you have to run the boiler manually in the meantime until they release (if they ever do) the bit that controls your boiler as well?
yes Another (non) kick starter.
To be fair, they do have a few selling points
1) Their hub is supposedly going to support other smart home devices, so not just heating. I don't suppose that will happen at launch though.
2) Their "plus" TRVs use energy harvesting, so no batteries going flat. I will be impressed if they have got that working properly with a motorised TRV.
3) Their early bird offers are pretty good, 4 energy harvesting TRVs plus the hub for less than £100 is a bit of a bargain. If they work properly.

shady lee

962 posts

183 months

Saturday 18th November 2017
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Jobbo said:
My Drayton Wiser system had been fine too (after the initial fiddling because the control is so much finer than the old stat).

However, I thought I'd ask for a wifi extender because they send them out for free. Installed it last night and it was fine; this morning it can't connect to the main room stat in the hallway, despite the extender only being about 5ft away from that. Installing the extender seems to have messed up my system laugh

Since the rad stats are still happily connected it doesn't really matter; there's still heat demand so the unconnected room stat doesn't mean it'll be cold when I get home.
Yeah I had that, amongst other things. The extender's issues was what finished it for me. Took it back the next day.

Still amazed with how good the evohome works, seems much more grown up than the wiser and hasn't needed faffing with once since fitted. Seems like the learning phase is over now too.

Joe M

674 posts

246 months

Saturday 18th November 2017
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Hive is cheap in amazon just now, does it support opentherm?

shady lee

962 posts

183 months

Saturday 18th November 2017
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Joe M said:
Hive is cheap in amazon just now, does it support opentherm?
Nope.... Think of hive as a simple on off thermostat... That's internet enabled.

No opentherm
No tpi
No zone capabilities
No weather comp.

But it is a very simple, very reliable unit.

Jobbo

12,973 posts

265 months

Saturday 18th November 2017
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shady lee said:
Yeah I had that, amongst other things. The extender's issues was what finished it for me. Took it back the next day.

Still amazed with how good the evohome works, seems much more grown up than the wiser and hasn't needed faffing with once since fitted. Seems like the learning phase is over now too.
I was a bit suspicious about how simple the range extender’s installation instructions were. But it seemed to work; I took the battery out of the room thermostat and put it back in and all’s been well since. If I have any other problems the extender is going to be the first thing switched off when fault-finding.

Joe M

674 posts

246 months

Saturday 18th November 2017
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shady lee said:
Nope.... Think of hive as a simple on off thermostat... That's internet enabled.

No opentherm
No tpi
No zone capabilities
No weather comp.

But it is a very simple, very reliable unit.
Thanks for that, ill give it a miss then. My current stat has all of that, without the Internet capabilities.

shady lee

962 posts

183 months

Saturday 18th November 2017
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Joe M said:
Thanks for that, ill give it a miss then. My current stat has all of that, without the Internet capabilities.
If your after a single stat that's smart is be looking at nest (provided you can get power to where it is sited) or tado.

Both do geolocation and opentherm, with the tado you can add trvs later on too.

wiggy001

6,545 posts

272 months

Saturday 18th November 2017
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shady lee said:
If your after a single stat that's smart is be looking at nest (provided you can get power to where it is sited) or tado.

Both do geolocation and opentherm, with the tado you can add trvs later on too.
I bought a Nest Thermostat on Amazon Prime Day earlier this year for about £110, so look out for offers.

Really pleased with it - yes it "simply" turns the boiler on and off, but it "just works". I've since bought the smoke/CO2 detectors, so I'm a fully signed up fanboi now!

Smart TRVs would be nice, but really not necessary for my needs.

shady lee

962 posts

183 months

Saturday 18th November 2017
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wiggy001 said:
I bought a Nest Thermostat on Amazon Prime Day earlier this year for about £110, so look out for offers.

Really pleased with it - yes it "simply" turns the boiler on and off, but it "just works". I've since bought the smoke/CO2 detectors, so I'm a fully signed up fanboi now!

Smart TRVs would be nice, but really not necessary for my needs.
If you have a opentherm boiler it will modulate the burner, plus it has geolocation for any smartphone signed in )same with your smoke detectors) and it also has tpi, a learning feature that calculates the time to temp etc.
Also has auto schedule which I've been told works well.

So not quite as on/off as the simple hive no.

mjb1

2,556 posts

160 months

Saturday 18th November 2017
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shady lee said:
wiggy001 said:
I bought a Nest Thermostat on Amazon Prime Day earlier this year for about £110, so look out for offers.

Really pleased with it - yes it "simply" turns the boiler on and off, but it "just works". I've since bought the smoke/CO2 detectors, so I'm a fully signed up fanboi now!

Smart TRVs would be nice, but really not necessary for my needs.
If you have a opentherm boiler it will modulate the burner, plus it has geolocation for any smartphone signed in )same with your smoke detectors) and it also has tpi, a learning feature that calculates the time to temp etc.
Also has auto schedule which I've been told works well.

So not quite as on/off as the simple hive no.
The latest revision of the Nest (v3) apparently has Opentherm, don't know if Hive will be updated to get it any time soon though. I've got Nest smoke alarms, they can be linked to Tado app using IFTTT, not that it's a big thing.

AW10

4,440 posts

250 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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Anyone else having Tado support issues? Put a request in via their app 8 days ago and have had two "sorry but we're real busy" replies but no action on the request. P*ss poor service.

dickymint

24,408 posts

259 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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AW10 said:
Anyone else having Tado support issues? Put a request in via their app 8 days ago and have had two "sorry but we're real busy" replies but no action on the request. P*ss poor service.
Not needed to since initial installation well over a year ago at which time was resolved by a phone call. What's the problem?