Best Wifi enabled thermostat
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Update on the idea touch connect - it’s rubbish.
Optimisation (telling the heating to be at that temperature at that time) doesn’t work and the system is so flakey due to supposed issues with the cloud that it may as well be a dumb thermostat.
It’s going back and I’m looking at something else...
Has wider improved?
Shall I just get a nest?
I no longer own a B&B with lots of rooms, but own a 17th century stone walled cottage - 7 radiators and a combi instead of 12 radiators and a boiler and water tank combo...
Optimisation (telling the heating to be at that temperature at that time) doesn’t work and the system is so flakey due to supposed issues with the cloud that it may as well be a dumb thermostat.
It’s going back and I’m looking at something else...
Has wider improved?
Shall I just get a nest?
I no longer own a B&B with lots of rooms, but own a 17th century stone walled cottage - 7 radiators and a combi instead of 12 radiators and a boiler and water tank combo...
ADogg said:
Update on the idea touch connect - it’s rubbish.
Optimisation (telling the heating to be at that temperature at that time) doesn’t work and the system is so flakey due to supposed issues with the cloud that it may as well be a dumb thermostat.
It’s going back and I’m looking at something else...
Has wider improved?
Shall I just get a nest?
I no longer own a B&B with lots of rooms, but own a 17th century stone walled cottage - 7 radiators and a combi instead of 12 radiators and a boiler and water tank combo...
I'm only going to say this one more time......get evohome and get on with your life lol....Optimisation (telling the heating to be at that temperature at that time) doesn’t work and the system is so flakey due to supposed issues with the cloud that it may as well be a dumb thermostat.
It’s going back and I’m looking at something else...
Has wider improved?
Shall I just get a nest?
I no longer own a B&B with lots of rooms, but own a 17th century stone walled cottage - 7 radiators and a combi instead of 12 radiators and a boiler and water tank combo...
Congrats on the sale also!
Morning all, I'm hoping someone can help.
I have the Nest Thermostat E, recently installed and not sure I understand how it works
I have both the thermostat and heat link (on the wall in place of my old stat) in the same room, but there is a constant 2 degree difference. Which means the heating is off when the room is cold.
It seems to go by the thermostat, rather than the heat link. The easy answer is to turn the dial up, but ideally I'd like to move the thermostat to another room
I'd say the room temp of 17.5 is right. It's a bit nippy, but the heating is off as the lounge stat (currently sitting two feet from the heat link) thinks its warm enough?
I have the Nest Thermostat E, recently installed and not sure I understand how it works
I have both the thermostat and heat link (on the wall in place of my old stat) in the same room, but there is a constant 2 degree difference. Which means the heating is off when the room is cold.
It seems to go by the thermostat, rather than the heat link. The easy answer is to turn the dial up, but ideally I'd like to move the thermostat to another room
I'd say the room temp of 17.5 is right. It's a bit nippy, but the heating is off as the lounge stat (currently sitting two feet from the heat link) thinks its warm enough?
I’m thinking of getting a Hive installed (£125 with British Gas), and just have a couple of questions.
I have a thermostat (which doesn’t work) in the hallway. Just a circular dial. Then in the kitchen I have a controller.
Which one has something installed in its place? Because both will leave a hole in my wall, but the kitchen is built in to the tiling. I guess I can get a cover plate for the hole left in the hallway, although that is less than ideal.
Or would this be included in the install? Would a cover plate in the kitchen (given the controller is quite big) be included in the install, from those with experience?
Thanks.
I have a thermostat (which doesn’t work) in the hallway. Just a circular dial. Then in the kitchen I have a controller.
Which one has something installed in its place? Because both will leave a hole in my wall, but the kitchen is built in to the tiling. I guess I can get a cover plate for the hole left in the hallway, although that is less than ideal.
Or would this be included in the install? Would a cover plate in the kitchen (given the controller is quite big) be included in the install, from those with experience?
Thanks.
The hive thermostat runs on batteries, so can be placed anywhere.
The hive receiver goes in place of your existing programmer and connects wirelessly to the thermostat (and to the hub, which needs to be plugged into your router).
I was extremely disappointed to find the hive thermostat switches off its display after 5 seconds. All the marketing and literature shows the display illuminated, and it looks very nice. But you can't actually see it unless you press a button, which is incredibly annoying. I like to look at the temperature and whether the heating is on when I walk past the thermostat. They have no plans to change it either, citing battery life as the issue.
I've now gone over to a nest 3rd gen instead, which is hardwired for power, and has a sensor which switches it on when you are near it.
The hive receiver goes in place of your existing programmer and connects wirelessly to the thermostat (and to the hub, which needs to be plugged into your router).
I was extremely disappointed to find the hive thermostat switches off its display after 5 seconds. All the marketing and literature shows the display illuminated, and it looks very nice. But you can't actually see it unless you press a button, which is incredibly annoying. I like to look at the temperature and whether the heating is on when I walk past the thermostat. They have no plans to change it either, citing battery life as the issue.
I've now gone over to a nest 3rd gen instead, which is hardwired for power, and has a sensor which switches it on when you are near it.
shady lee said:
I'm only going to say this one more time......get evohome and get on with your life lol....
Congrats on the sale also!
Haha thank you!Congrats on the sale also!
I would do buuuuuut I want just a thermostat I can program and forget about - a modern take of an old setup that I can be a geek out with when necessary, I’m not fussed with TRVs on every rad this time round...
I do wonder out of morbid curiosity if wiser is still s
te or not?! S6PNJ said:
ADogg said:
I do wonder out of morbid curiosity if wiser is still ste or not?!
In what way do you think Wiser might still be ste or not?! te? I have it as a system and save for one or two teething problems (some of my own doing) I'm happy with it.- MeToo.
I phoned Drayton and they immediately offered to upgrade my old system to the new Wiser kit free of charge.
Fitted in an hour, works perfectly , effectively a wifi enabled version of a traditional 24/7 timer for heating and water. But it can also do a lot more if you want it to.
I did try a Nest before any of the others, and took it back within the afternoon. The fitting instructions were woeful, the instructions clear as mud and then I realised that it just wouldn't work for me. I don't need a system that 'learns' , I just want it to do exactly what I tell it to.
ADogg said:
Haha thank you!
I would do buuuuuut I want just a thermostat I can program and forget about - a modern take of an old setup that I can be a geek out with when necessary, I’m not fussed with TRVs on every rad this time round...
I do wonder out of morbid curiosity if wiser is still ste or not?!
Others say wiser is better, my personal experience means I'd never touch Drayton again.I would do buuuuuut I want just a thermostat I can program and forget about - a modern take of an old setup that I can be a geek out with when necessary, I’m not fussed with TRVs on every rad this time round...
I do wonder out of morbid curiosity if wiser is still s
te or not?! Did you end up ditching wiser in the b&b?
Last I heard from you was them having to come out to try and make it work.
I think for what your wanting I'd go for tado mate, stable and with plenty of geeky options including geofencing and humidity gumf to play with.
Also in the future you could always add a Itrv or 2.
K50 DEL said:
So my old Nest unit used to be able to tell me (via a graph I think) how long the boiler had been firing for.....
Does EvoHome have the same facility?
Not natively no, you can add a module called a hg180 and go down the road of data logging.Does EvoHome have the same facility?
To be honest only having the data from when the boiler fired doest elude to much, flow and return temps combined with room temps and overall load will tell a better tale of whats going on and how efficent a system is running.
But its a nice thing to have built in for nothing.
shady lee said:
Others say wiser is better, my personal experience means I'd never touch Drayton again.
Did you end up ditching wiser in the b&b?
Last I heard from you was them having to come out to try and make it work.
I think for what your wanting I'd go for tado mate, stable and with plenty of geeky options including geofencing and humidity gumf to play with.
Also in the future you could always add a Itrv or 2.
You and me both!Did you end up ditching wiser in the b&b?
Last I heard from you was them having to come out to try and make it work.
I think for what your wanting I'd go for tado mate, stable and with plenty of geeky options including geofencing and humidity gumf to play with.
Also in the future you could always add a Itrv or 2.
It ended with the engineer coming and finding it didn’t really work and not knowing why. After that I pretty much got a whole new setup to try and lots of boosters and spares and it was still s
te! Then there were the two conference calls with myself, the Head of R&D, customer services and others at Drayton - bless them they tried to figure it out but my experience was it is/was cheap for a reason. If it didn’t work in our former Victorian B&B it definitely won’t work in my 17th century stone wall house...
Cool I’ll look into Tado now!
ADogg said:
shady lee said:
I'm only going to say this one more time......get evohome and get on with your life lol....
Congrats on the sale also!
Haha thank you!Congrats on the sale also!
I would do buuuuuut I want just a thermostat I can program and forget about - a modern take of an old setup that I can be a geek out with when necessary, I’m not fussed with TRVs on every rad this time round...
I do wonder out of morbid curiosity if wiser is still s
te or not?! That's what I've done to tide me over until they update their Evohome hardware, then I'll jump on that.
I'm sure it's been covered, but I can't find it on this thread. We are installing central heating in our 100 y.o. home and have got a Beretta Exclusive 35C combi boiler coming. The installers want to use their own brand smart thermostat which I'm not that keen on, partly as it does not have HomeKit and presumably is a rebrand of something else as it has other languages selectable in an ~English speaking country.
What is the best (reliable) HomeKit thermostat. We will have TRV's and 2 zones with hot water from the combi boiler.
Ecobee 5 looks good but would require some faffing with the instal as it's 24v only. Too seems good but looks a bit st, Evohome seems good but their smart TRV's fail the WAF and it's not HomeKit compatible out the box....
Cheers
A
What is the best (reliable) HomeKit thermostat. We will have TRV's and 2 zones with hot water from the combi boiler.
Ecobee 5 looks good but would require some faffing with the instal as it's 24v only. Too seems good but looks a bit s
t, Evohome seems good but their smart TRV's fail the WAF and it's not HomeKit compatible out the box....Cheers
A
Hi, was going to start a thread but saw this one.
Could do with modernising our heating, am not averse to a new boiler, its an ancient traditional Valiant, we have been here 20 plus years and it was by no means new then but it works and has given good service, British Gas give us dire warnings about spares availability but it plods on. separate hot water cylinder.
The house is a fair sized 1930s 4 bed detached, well insulated and double glazed.
We are spending quite a bit on gas, my wife has traditionally controlled the heating but she seems to just adjust it on the thermostat which is a very old Danfoss one in the hall and there is a Potterton controller thingy in a cupboard int he kitchen, its on from seven until bedtime. We have had thermostatic rad valves put on a few radiators.
Its chewing through gas at like £5 a day, at the moment none of the kids are home so we are heating bedrooms that dont need heating, its on during the day when we arent there, I do work from home some days.
So wondering what to do, dotn want to change the boiler just yet but the smart aspect appeals and being able to control it from a phone rather than rooting round in a cupboard, being able to do it by room would be good.
So what do I need ? Dont want to spend a fortune, are the rad thermostats for these controlled by the app ?
Could do with modernising our heating, am not averse to a new boiler, its an ancient traditional Valiant, we have been here 20 plus years and it was by no means new then but it works and has given good service, British Gas give us dire warnings about spares availability but it plods on. separate hot water cylinder.
The house is a fair sized 1930s 4 bed detached, well insulated and double glazed.
We are spending quite a bit on gas, my wife has traditionally controlled the heating but she seems to just adjust it on the thermostat which is a very old Danfoss one in the hall and there is a Potterton controller thingy in a cupboard int he kitchen, its on from seven until bedtime. We have had thermostatic rad valves put on a few radiators.
Its chewing through gas at like £5 a day, at the moment none of the kids are home so we are heating bedrooms that dont need heating, its on during the day when we arent there, I do work from home some days.
So wondering what to do, dotn want to change the boiler just yet but the smart aspect appeals and being able to control it from a phone rather than rooting round in a cupboard, being able to do it by room would be good.
So what do I need ? Dont want to spend a fortune, are the rad thermostats for these controlled by the app ?
Hi guys,
I'm looking to replacing an old boiler (but not the radiators). First quote has come in at £2,600 for a Vaillent Eco Tec Pro 28KW
The above price includes labour/installation charges and VAT but doesn't include replacing the old HoneyWell thermostat.
The house is a 3 bed terrace, 1 bath, 1 shower, 7 radiators. Yorkshire.
Could anyone tell me if the quote seems reasonable to you? It's the first quote I've had and it seemed a tad excessive especially as the plumber said he couldn't replace the thermostat for that price.
I wanted a WiFi enabled one so he's recommended either a Huawei or a NEST product (but not advised which model). If anyone has any advice on what's a decent thermostat to go for, let me know.
Thank you
I'm looking to replacing an old boiler (but not the radiators). First quote has come in at £2,600 for a Vaillent Eco Tec Pro 28KW
The above price includes labour/installation charges and VAT but doesn't include replacing the old HoneyWell thermostat.
The house is a 3 bed terrace, 1 bath, 1 shower, 7 radiators. Yorkshire.
Could anyone tell me if the quote seems reasonable to you? It's the first quote I've had and it seemed a tad excessive especially as the plumber said he couldn't replace the thermostat for that price.
I wanted a WiFi enabled one so he's recommended either a Huawei or a NEST product (but not advised which model). If anyone has any advice on what's a decent thermostat to go for, let me know.
Thank you
ATV said:
Hi guys,
I'm looking to replacing an old boiler (but not the radiators). First quote has come in at £2,600 for a Vaillent Eco Tec Pro 28KW
The above price includes labour/installation charges and VAT but doesn't include replacing the old HoneyWell thermostat.
The house is a 3 bed terrace, 1 bath, 1 shower, 7 radiators. Yorkshire.
Could anyone tell me if the quote seems reasonable to you? It's the first quote I've had and it seemed a tad excessive especially as the plumber said he couldn't replace the thermostat for that price.
I wanted a WiFi enabled one so he's recommended either a Huawei or a NEST product (but not advised which model). If anyone has any advice on what's a decent thermostat to go for, let me know.
Thank you
Get some more quotes. That does sound expensive and adding a nest shouldn't cost much more. I was told if I bought one, the boiler chap would fit (for free) when doing the boiler. It was my choice but I went with the standard remote thermostat at the time - which to be honest is good.I'm looking to replacing an old boiler (but not the radiators). First quote has come in at £2,600 for a Vaillent Eco Tec Pro 28KW
The above price includes labour/installation charges and VAT but doesn't include replacing the old HoneyWell thermostat.
The house is a 3 bed terrace, 1 bath, 1 shower, 7 radiators. Yorkshire.
Could anyone tell me if the quote seems reasonable to you? It's the first quote I've had and it seemed a tad excessive especially as the plumber said he couldn't replace the thermostat for that price.
I wanted a WiFi enabled one so he's recommended either a Huawei or a NEST product (but not advised which model). If anyone has any advice on what's a decent thermostat to go for, let me know.
Thank you
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