Anywhere decent for a front entrance door?

[jonnydrama]

That's good to know as my garage will hopefully be up this year, if not next.

I've started reading through your blog too as my house is another 1970s disaster!!

[jonnydrama]

rednotdead said:

no worries. We must have looked at loads of options and always kept coming back to the Hormanns. They are in a different league from all the other doors we looked at. Matching garage door is going in next month and that was actually cheaper than some of the quotes I've had for 'standard type' garage doors.

Quick q for you mate, I noticed the Hormann looks almost flush fit at the bottom, what kind of clearance is there behind the door for flooring? Would appreciate some pics too if you get the chance?

[rednotdead]

Here you go (scuse the dirt, still got trades in and out and it's impossible to keep clean!):







The fitter asked us what flooring was going down so he could make sure there would be enough of a lip. The low lip was another attraction of the Hormanns - the wife has mobility issues and can't cope with 'up and over' type door entrances.

Edited by rednotdead on Wednesday 17th April 08:55

Edited by rednotdead on Wednesday 17th April 08:57

[jonnydrama]

Appreciate that mate! I think I've sussed it out from the pics. It looks like the bar along the base is approx 20mm deep and the door opens flush with it? So if the door is fixed onto my door step it'll allow for around 20mm deep flooring?

Also, apologies for the billions of questions. No where up here installs them (only garage doors) so I've got to figure out the dimensions myself and order it online!

[onomatopoeia]

jonnydrama said:

Appreciate that mate! I think I've sussed it out from the pics. It looks like the bar along the base is approx 20mm deep and the door opens flush with it? So if the door is fixed onto my door step it'll allow for around 20mm deep flooring?

I just had the chap from the local Hormann supplier out this lunchtime to look at my front door and he said they do a 30mm section piece to go under the door to allow clearance on the inside for flooring etc. (they also do taller sections as well)

I asked Hormann themselves to point me at my local supplier - it was a place I'd never have thought of as they lead their advertising on installing garage doors, so might be worth contacting Hormann directly to see if there is anyone local

[rednotdead]

Sounds about right. The stainless steel step you can see is over the existing the concrete sill. The black bit is the base of the frame and the door is more or less flush with it at the bottom. Let me know if you need any specific pictures and I'll see what I can do.

[rednotdead]

onomatopoeia said:

I asked Hormann themselves to point me at my local supplier - it was a place I'd never have thought of as they lead their advertising on installing garage doors, so might be worth contacting Hormann directly to see if there is anyone local

I found this too - it lead me to a little garage door bloke on the outskirts of Guildford. What put me off was his comment that he's happy with garage doors but had never fitted a front door. I then found AHA at one of the renovation shows.

[jonnydrama]

Contacted Hormann following the advice on this thread (thanks!), now got a guy coming round on Tuesday to size up etc.

Got a feeling it wont get sorted that day because I may need to strip out some pvc ste to get proper opening sizes but the ball's rolling anyway!

[onomatopoeia]

jonnydrama said:

Contacted Hormann following the advice on this thread (thanks!), now got a guy coming round on Tuesday to size up etc.

Got a feeling it wont get sorted that day because I may need to strip out some pvc ste to get proper opening sizes but the ball's rolling anyway!

I pulled off the architrave around the inside of my existing front door so an accurate measurement could be obtained - I'm doing a complete gut and redecorate of my hallway anyway so it was going to be gone anyway.

Just placed the order for my new door and am going for the Hormann, far and away the nicest in terms of overall "feel" from the various manufacturers I looked at (and tbh, I'd never have considered them if not for recommendations here).

[Bonefish Blues]

I must admit, I would have been sorely tempted also had I seen them prior to our renovation.

[jonnydrama]

Mine's not a renovation as such, just fed up of the god awful pvc front door I currently have Can only imagine it was thrown in as a freebie when the last owners replaced the windows!

My garage will be built this year or next (my drawings are with the Structural Engineer just now) so it'll get a matching Hormann door. At the moment I'm thinking of doing them both in Anthracite. I did think about the Aluminium white but after looking up the RAL number it almost looks like primer. The odd thing is the missus seems to like it too (that's a first!)

[Bonefish Blues]

Bonefish Blues said:

jonnydrama said:

Some good stuff there for decent prices. I'd need to have mine painted though or it'll look odd as there'll be cedar cladding above it.

It'll take paint, stain, oil, or the breathable finish we used. Very happy with the results.

Now not quite as happy as I was with the results, thanks to you and your pesky thread!

[offshorematt2]

jonnydrama said:

Contacted Hormann following the advice on this thread (thanks!), now got a guy coming round on Tuesday to size up etc.

Will be interested how you get on. I'm in the market for something similar and not far outside Aberdeen. Who did they put you in touch with out of interest?

[jonnydrama]

From memory it's a mob in Kintore, garage door and gate co, aberdeen.

I just noticed earlier today a house down the road from me (Milltimber) has a Hormann front door and twin garage doors too!

[offshorematt2]

Cheers for that, I'll give them a shout

[jonnydrama]

Hmmm, first thoughts not so good. The guy kept mentioning how expensive the doors are and when I said I'd priced one up at between £1-2k he said it was unlikely that was possible. Shame as I didn't want the hassle of fitting it myself and I thought £2k fitted might be a realistic expectation as the door was working out at approx £1500. I won't give up hope yet though until I hear back from them.

Phoned up garagedoorsonline though and the guy was extremely helpful, I've got a feeling I'll rip off the architrave for some more accurate measurements this weekend and order from them. Shame as I try to support local companies and I'll have a second Hormann entrance door and garage door to buy in the next 12 months.

[Zippee]

We're having our Solidor fitted today - very similar sort of thing to the Hormanns and will post some pics up if you're interested?

[onomatopoeia]

jonnydrama said:

Hmmm, first thoughts not so good. The guy kept mentioning how expensive the doors are and when I said I'd priced one up at between £1-2k he said it was unlikely that was possible.

In case you haven't found it already, manufacturer price list for the garage doors and Thermo pro entrance doors here http://www.hormann.co.uk/fileadmin/hormann.co.uk/B... . That'll give you a place to start from, at least.

Dealers can charge what they want, of course. I'm paying something between the list price and the discount level offered by the online supply only places for mine (supply and fit). Closer to list though. I'm sure I could have paid less if I'd done online supply and then arranged my own installer, but since I wanted a brand new design in a non-standard size and my faith in the consistency of construction of the concrete block walls of my house is "limited", I took the option of doing the whole thing through the local dealer. That way if it's the wrong size, it's their problem, and if it's difficult to fit, it's their problem.

[jonnydrama]

Aye throw up a pic Zippee.

I would be pretty happy paying list for a fitted door but I've got a feeling they're going to be way off the mark, like yourself I wanted peace of mind that they were responsible for sizing it.

Mine isn't so much of a worry though as the whole exterior of the house is due to be re-rendered when the garage is built, I'll be able fix any discrepancies in the brickwork with a hammer chisel haha.

Also, something else I found is Garador are the exact same doors as Hormann and are made by them, that's an extra few hundred potentially saved there.

Edited by jonnydrama on Tuesday 23 April 12:42

[jonnydrama]

And the price is in!

Just under £2900 for a TPS700 fitted, that's just the door no transom lights or side panels. Considering the Garador equivalent is about £1500 online (and Hormann £1700) I won't be supporting local business in this case.

The missus asked what I'll do if it doesn't fit... I could buy another and I still wouldn't be much out of pocket!!