New kitchen kit - which would you buy and NOT buy again?
Discussion
garyhun said:
I suggest to anyone planning a new kitchen - take your time and really analyse what it is YOU do and YOU need.
This is very true, everyone has different needs and wants. It's a shame that the higher end of the market are allowed to really find out what these are and could be. But anyone at any level can spend a bit of time working out what they need and ask for advise, unlike a car the p/x value on a kitchen is scary low. garyhun said:
To be fair, we all sent our kitchens to look good.
It's the designers job to turn our wants and desires into something that is also functional,
So you'd think, it's amazing that some so called kitchen designer would find the toaster a challenge. It's the designers job to turn our wants and desires into something that is also functional,
I've seen some truely shocking designs over the years. Functionality can be reduced if the client is made very aware and disclaimer signed. It's their kitchen after all but you can't cure stupid.
Wonder if some designers rely on a similar process taking place as when people move into a new house.
You have got your stuff, presented with a kitchen that you had no input into the design or functionality. You then just get on with the job of working out where you are going to put what just to get the place into a functioning kitchen and move on. There may be a bit of shuffling around as the months go by but essentially you put up with the bits that are less than perfect.
Thinking about the details of what will go where in which cupboard / drawer and how that will affect the kitchen use is quite difficult to do considering the amount of "stuff" people have. Or at least I find it difficult to do in the abstract nature of a drawing on paper. Maybe it's just me.
But after the completion guess most people go through similar process to moving in day, so where do we want to put THIS.
You have got your stuff, presented with a kitchen that you had no input into the design or functionality. You then just get on with the job of working out where you are going to put what just to get the place into a functioning kitchen and move on. There may be a bit of shuffling around as the months go by but essentially you put up with the bits that are less than perfect.
Thinking about the details of what will go where in which cupboard / drawer and how that will affect the kitchen use is quite difficult to do considering the amount of "stuff" people have. Or at least I find it difficult to do in the abstract nature of a drawing on paper. Maybe it's just me.
But after the completion guess most people go through similar process to moving in day, so where do we want to put THIS.
FiF said:
Wonder if some designers rely on a similar process taking place as when people move into a new house.
You have got your stuff, presented with a kitchen that you had no input into the design or functionality. You then just get on with the job of working out where you are going to put what just to get the place into a functioning kitchen and move on. There may be a bit of shuffling around as the months go by but essentially you put up with the bits that are less than perfect.
Thinking about the details of what will go where in which cupboard / drawer and how that will affect the kitchen use is quite difficult to do considering the amount of "stuff" people have. Or at least I find it difficult to do in the abstract nature of a drawing on paper. Maybe it's just me.
But after the completion guess most people go through similar process to moving in day, so where do we want to put THIS.
In new builds you probably only got a few pull outs, a plastic cutlery insert and lots of shelves so in a way the process is easier but annoying to use. Generally a good mid sized kitchen will have a degree of flexibility to it, plus you can always switch out or add units to alter it to your needs. You have got your stuff, presented with a kitchen that you had no input into the design or functionality. You then just get on with the job of working out where you are going to put what just to get the place into a functioning kitchen and move on. There may be a bit of shuffling around as the months go by but essentially you put up with the bits that are less than perfect.
Thinking about the details of what will go where in which cupboard / drawer and how that will affect the kitchen use is quite difficult to do considering the amount of "stuff" people have. Or at least I find it difficult to do in the abstract nature of a drawing on paper. Maybe it's just me.
But after the completion guess most people go through similar process to moving in day, so where do we want to put THIS.
RizzoTheRat said:
My mother spent a fair bit of time sat down with a kitchen designer planning hers. He reckoned she had fairly unusual requirements in that she wanted to cook in it, the majority of his customers just wanted to to look nice and had very little thoughts about practicality.
We once built a beautiful small kitchen in a Cotswold cottage which was a single guys second home.He was determined to have just about every conceiveable integrated appliance you could buy, other than a microwave. The focol point of the kitchen was the large range cooker he desired, I think that alone was around 4.5K.
Two years later, he got in touch and wanted a microwave installed, I informed him there was nowhere for one to go so he asked if I minded supplying a standalone one and delivering it to the cottage as he was rarely there to receive it.
This I did, when I walked in the kitchen I was amazed, having a quick look round, I noticed it still had the blue sticky tape on the fridge shelves, it had never been used, in fact not one appliance or the range. I unpacked the £80 microwave, placed it on the worktop and left.
One of the most helpful threads on here! Yes it's all just opinion but it has made me aware of so many things.
Can I just ask a daft question? When everyone says "No food waste in bins, so your dogs don't rummage" regarding waste disposal units, where does the waste go? Into a bag and then straight out into the outside bin?
I've never had one and thought they had died out in the eighties, as that's last time I heard of them, but I'm now very interested if it saves a load of messy plate scraping into bins after meal-time.
Can I just ask a daft question? When everyone says "No food waste in bins, so your dogs don't rummage" regarding waste disposal units, where does the waste go? Into a bag and then straight out into the outside bin?
I've never had one and thought they had died out in the eighties, as that's last time I heard of them, but I'm now very interested if it saves a load of messy plate scraping into bins after meal-time.
marky911 said:
One of the most helpful threads on here! Yes it's all just opinion but it has made me aware of so many things.
Can I just ask a daft question? When everyone says "No food waste in bins, so your dogs don't rummage" regarding waste disposal units, where does the waste go? Into a bag and then straight out into the outside bin?
I've never had one and thought they had died out in the eighties, as that's last time I heard of them, but I'm now very interested if it saves a load of messy plate scraping into bins after meal-time.
Down the sink. The waste disposal is plumbed into the sink waste pipe and is usually built into the sink's drainer hole. You run the tap, fire up the WDU and then lob your bones, left over veg, apple peel and anything else in it and it gets crushed into fine particles and goes off down the drain. They do have a bad rep for blocking and ours did a few times, but only when my wife went bonkers with it. Carrot or banana peel, for example is pretty hardy stuff and if you chucked it all in at once you could hear the thing labouring a bit as the sheer gloopy mass of it would overwhelm the teeth inside, so the trick was just to feed it in. Bones and that sort of thing it devoured and made a very satisfying noise, like a wood saw. They are noisy (well ours was) but the fact you have no messy food crap in your bin is worth the price of admission alone. Can I just ask a daft question? When everyone says "No food waste in bins, so your dogs don't rummage" regarding waste disposal units, where does the waste go? Into a bag and then straight out into the outside bin?
I've never had one and thought they had died out in the eighties, as that's last time I heard of them, but I'm now very interested if it saves a load of messy plate scraping into bins after meal-time.
bennyboydurham said:
marky911 said:
One of the most helpful threads on here! Yes it's all just opinion but it has made me aware of so many things.
Can I just ask a daft question? When everyone says "No food waste in bins, so your dogs don't rummage" regarding waste disposal units, where does the waste go? Into a bag and then straight out into the outside bin?
I've never had one and thought they had died out in the eighties, as that's last time I heard of them, but I'm now very interested if it saves a load of messy plate scraping into bins after meal-time.
Down the sink. The waste disposal is plumbed into the sink waste pipe and is usually built into the sink's drainer hole. You run the tap, fire up the WDU and then lob your bones, left over veg, apple peel and anything else in it and it gets crushed into fine particles and goes off down the drain. They do have a bad rep for blocking and ours did a few times, but only when my wife went bonkers with it. Carrot or banana peel, for example is pretty hardy stuff and if you chucked it all in at once you could hear the thing labouring a bit as the sheer gloopy mass of it would overwhelm the teeth inside, so the trick was just to feed it in. Bones and that sort of thing it devoured and made a very satisfying noise, like a wood saw. They are noisy (well ours was) but the fact you have no messy food crap in your bin is worth the price of admission alone. Can I just ask a daft question? When everyone says "No food waste in bins, so your dogs don't rummage" regarding waste disposal units, where does the waste go? Into a bag and then straight out into the outside bin?
I've never had one and thought they had died out in the eighties, as that's last time I heard of them, but I'm now very interested if it saves a load of messy plate scraping into bins after meal-time.
Well worth having one IMHO.
Our kitchen is fairly simple, so we don't feel like we've splashed out on anything we don't use, but are really glad we got the under cabinet LEDs, double oven and especially the dishwasher.
We could do with more storage - although I'm not too sure that would be possible given the size of the room, and somewhere better to put the bins.
We could do with more storage - although I'm not too sure that would be possible given the size of the room, and somewhere better to put the bins.
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