Permitted Development Rights Question

Permitted Development Rights Question

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DS3R

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9,894 posts

167 months

Sunday 26th January 2014
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Detached house, has an attached garage to the side which is the only part of the property with any road frontage (rest is hidden behind a 12 foot wall), ie the only thng facing the road is the garage door.

Would like to build over the garage,

It would be within 2 meters of the adjacent boundary, so looking at the planning portal, if I want to have more than 3 meters height (which I would, being over the garage), it would not be PDR, so I'd need a full application (is that right?)

Intend to extend the other side using PDR (4m single storey) not being over 50% of the original floor area first, it would be within 2 meters of the boundary so silly lettres from opportunistic surveying firms asided, I assume I will need to think party wall there even though PDR takes care of the planning aspect?

VMT!

mattdaniels

7,353 posts

283 months

Monday 27th January 2014
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I believe you are correct reagarding the Party Wall arrangement as I was in a similar situation.

A quick phone call to your local planning office will clarity your questions from your specific local authority which is the best answer rather than asking strangers on the internet TBH.

RDJ

7,251 posts

234 months

Wednesday 29th January 2014
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DS3R said:
Intend to extend the other side using PDR (4m single storey) not being over 50% of the original floor area
VMT!
50% of floor area? do you mean not 'not more than 50% of land around the house as it stood after 1948'?

bigdom

2,087 posts

146 months

Wednesday 29th January 2014
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Appears similar to what were doing. As thought, you'll need party wall agreement, I'd also suggest running your thoughts/plans through your local council. When we planned ours with the architect, it was suggested full planning was a safer option In regards to objections, so went that way, painless apart from an objection from one neighbour (no points in law) so straight through.

DS3R

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9,894 posts

167 months

Thursday 30th January 2014
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RDJ said:
50% of floor area? do you mean not 'not more than 50% of land around the house as it stood after 1948'?
I don't know, i don't understand what you mean, as with a literal reading of your post if it had 10 acres I could extend to 5 of them, which I don't think would be cricket (or affordable smile

RDJ

7,251 posts

234 months

Thursday 30th January 2014
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DS3R said:
I don't know, i don't understand what you mean, as with a literal reading of your post if it had 10 acres I could extend to 5 of them, which I don't think would be cricket (or affordable smile
hehe sorry, I see what you mean.

I've never heard of this reference to 50% of existing floor area before so I was just wondering where you got that figure from? and wondered if you were confusing it with this?

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Extensions (including previous extensions) and other buildings must not exceed 50% of the “curtilage”. What is defined as the curtilage for a particular house will vary according to a number of factors, but in most cases it will comprise the area of land around the original house (ie what is understood to be the garden/grounds of the house).

But the curtilage may be a smaller area in some cases, especially in the case of properties with large grounds set in the countryside.

The 50% limit covers all buildings so will include existing and proposed outbuildings as well as any existing or proposed new extensions to a house. It will exclude the area covered by the house itself but will include any separate detached buildings built prior to 1948 (eg a detached garage).