New Boiler Quote - Sanity check on pricing

New Boiler Quote - Sanity check on pricing

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Rickyy

6,618 posts

220 months

Wednesday 29th January 2014
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Changing a conventional boiler to another conventional boiler isn't always straight forward. The Vaillant will have a pump overrun facility, if the old one didn't, this means running a cable from the boiler to the pump.

An automatic bypass may also need fitting.

If the new boiler isn't a condensing model, there will pipework to run to a suitable drain point.

Powerflushes usually cost between £350-£400 INC chemicals. Decent sludge remover and inhibitor would come to around £40.

Fats25

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6,260 posts

230 months

Thursday 30th January 2014
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Thanks for the responses. Much appreciated.

It seems it may not be the cheapest quote - but is certainly not unreasonable - and that is all I wanted to know. It seems fair. I have him booked ASAP, and to be fair to him is going to come on Sunday, and comes recommended from someone I trust, so I am happy with this.

One slight change to the above, and it may be cheaper as well, is I was advised by another friend to be careful of the powerflush. My house is built with 10mm polyfit pipes, using push connectors, (this is in my head so some terms may be incorrect - something to do with microbore or something like that) and I have been advised by a friend not to do the powerflush on it.

The guy coming out Sunday initially said it would not be an issue, but I think is now backing away on this to do a full system flush. My concern naturally is if a pipe comes off of water damage behind walls, on on the hardwood flooring. As I said to the guy - providing he has liability cover, and is happy to go ahead with the powerflush, I will back his recommendation, as he is the expert. I think it may have set alarm bells in his head now though, and he is suggesting we will just do a chemical system flush.

Any thoughts? (and not on my lack of plumbing knowledge!!)

Rickyy

6,618 posts

220 months

Thursday 30th January 2014
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I wouldn't worry. Hep2O pipe can withstand 12 bar at 20 DegC. A Powerflush machine is open vented and doesn't produce much pressure, just a high flow rate.

As an alternative, how about having a magnetic filter installed?

TwigtheWonderkid

43,406 posts

151 months

Thursday 30th January 2014
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Andy M said:
When we need to replace a boiler in one of our rented properties we tend to fit Glow-Worm 30kW boilers.
Why not fit a decent one, like a Worcester Bosch or Vaillant?

Fats25

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6,260 posts

230 months

Thursday 30th January 2014
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Rickyy said:
I wouldn't worry. Hep2O pipe can withstand 12 bar at 20 DegC. A Powerflush machine is open vented and doesn't produce much pressure, just a high flow rate.

As an alternative, how about having a magnetic filter installed?
I don't really know what that means?

v8chimmy

189 posts

164 months

Thursday 30th January 2014
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Fats25 said:
Rickyy said:
I wouldn't worry. Hep2O pipe can withstand 12 bar at 20 DegC. A Powerflush machine is open vented and doesn't produce much pressure, just a high flow rate.

As an alternative, how about having a magnetic filter installed?
I don't really know what that means?

Get him to fit a Boilermag filter, best on the market and manufactured by experts. I'm sure the guy would agree and be happy
To fit one, www.boilermag.com

Andy M

3,755 posts

260 months

Thursday 30th January 2014
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Why not fit a decent one, like a Worcester Bosch or Vaillant?
Given that we've had zero failures, why would we change?

Terminator X

15,107 posts

205 months

Thursday 30th January 2014
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Seems ok to me as BG wanted £3k to give us a new boiler, we used AN Other of course! Was about £1600 a few years ago from memory.

TX.

FiF

44,140 posts

252 months

Thursday 30th January 2014
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http://www.adey.co.uk/magnacleanse.asp

We have microbore system and were told by a few people who would normally offer powerflush that it didn't work well with such systems.

When we fitted the Vaillant we had a magnaclean filter fitted and had a magnacleanse done. The amount of crap that was cleared out was amazing. Since then the heating system has been great and much lower gas consumption.

It's not possible to do it in parallel to the boiler fit. That's done the pump overrun cable run new flue and condensate drain done. The boiler fired up and the magnacleanse fitted in place of the magnaclean filter.

All the radiators are turned off and only one run at a time. The radiator is vibrated and all the gunk is thus put into suspension. It is pumped round to the circuit and before it gets to the boiler is removed by the magnetic filters. Water black as ink going in. Clear coming out.

Once all radiators done. System drained down and all cleaning chemicals flushed out. Refilled including inhibitor.

The cleanse was included in the overall job. Original quote for it was 300 inc chemicals.