Plaster vs Lining Paper
Discussion
Hi there,
I've just had a house entirely re plastered/skimmed (we went back to the brickwork) and we'll soon be ready to paint. I'd be grateful for some advice on painting straight onto the new walls vs lining them first? I'll save some £'s by not lining but I more concerned about finish and durability.
Any advice welcome.
P
I've just had a house entirely re plastered/skimmed (we went back to the brickwork) and we'll soon be ready to paint. I'd be grateful for some advice on painting straight onto the new walls vs lining them first? I'll save some £'s by not lining but I more concerned about finish and durability.
Any advice welcome.
P
As long as the plaster is 100% silky smooth with no little pockmarks or "cellulite" type dimples you can paint straight on it. You can get very find sanding paper for plaster, which you can use along with some gypsum filler if you find any imperfections in the plaster.
Use diluted paint for the first coat, like 10-30% water, and it'll help soak the paint into the plaster and give a good surface for the proper paint to stick to. You may find you need 1 coat of the water paint and 2-3 coats of proper paint to cover the plaster.
Lining paper will cover any imperfections in the plaster, but suffers from the same problem any wallpaper will have which is the joins, although only really apparent with white or very light colours.
Use diluted paint for the first coat, like 10-30% water, and it'll help soak the paint into the plaster and give a good surface for the proper paint to stick to. You may find you need 1 coat of the water paint and 2-3 coats of proper paint to cover the plaster.
Lining paper will cover any imperfections in the plaster, but suffers from the same problem any wallpaper will have which is the joins, although only really apparent with white or very light colours.
TheAllSeeingPie said:
As long as the plaster is 100% silky smooth with no little pockmarks or "cellulite" type dimples you can paint straight on it. You can get very find sanding paper for plaster, which you can use along with some gypsum filler if you find any imperfections in the plaster.
Use diluted paint for the first coat, like 10-30% water, and it'll help soak the paint into the plaster and give a good surface for the proper paint to stick to. You may find you need 1 coat of the water paint and 2-3 coats of proper paint to cover the plaster.
Lining paper will cover any imperfections in the plaster, but suffers from the same problem any wallpaper will have which is the joins, although only really apparent with white or very light colours.
Thank you. Does that mean painting onto plaster would require more coats of paint vs lining? I'm just trying to get a handle on costs, lining will set me back £10k so if I can avoid it whist still maintaining a quality finish I will!Use diluted paint for the first coat, like 10-30% water, and it'll help soak the paint into the plaster and give a good surface for the proper paint to stick to. You may find you need 1 coat of the water paint and 2-3 coats of proper paint to cover the plaster.
Lining paper will cover any imperfections in the plaster, but suffers from the same problem any wallpaper will have which is the joins, although only really apparent with white or very light colours.
poocherama said:
Thank you. Does that mean painting onto plaster would require more coats of paint vs lining? I'm just trying to get a handle on costs, lining will set me back £10k so if I can avoid it whist still maintaining a quality finish I will!
Lining paper will set you back £10k Where do you live Pooch, Chatsworth? The plaster shouldn't need lining if it's a decent job BTW. Lining paper is usually used to cover up less than perfect walls.£10k for lining paper yikes, how much was the plastering? You must have some size house.
New plaster can be easily covered with two coats of good quality matt emulsion, don't go overboard as new plaster will sometimes crack/shrink a little, so it may need repaintimg after 6 months or so.
New plaster can be easily covered with two coats of good quality matt emulsion, don't go overboard as new plaster will sometimes crack/shrink a little, so it may need repaintimg after 6 months or so.
poocherama said:
Thank you. Does that mean painting onto plaster would require more coats of paint vs lining? I'm just trying to get a handle on costs, lining will set me back £10k so if I can avoid it whist still maintaining a quality finish I will!
You'll basically need 1 more coat if you are using paint vs lining paper. There is just a bit more double checking and potential filling / sanding if you go the paint route. For the first watered down coat you just use the largest cheapest bucket of white emulsion you can. It's there to get something for the paint to stick to and prevent the finish paint from soaking into the plaster.There should be no reason on earth to put lining paper on a freshly plastered wall assuming the job has been done well.
A mist coat followed by a couple of coats of your chosen emulsion and it should look superb.
If I returned to a clients house and saw that they'd covered up my work with lining paper I'd feel quite put out.
And £10k for lining paper?
A mist coat followed by a couple of coats of your chosen emulsion and it should look superb.
If I returned to a clients house and saw that they'd covered up my work with lining paper I'd feel quite put out.
And £10k for lining paper?
Edited by B17NNS on Monday 26th January 16:35
Thanks all for your reply's.
What about hairline cracks? I've seen friends newly plastered houses develop cracks in the first few months, is this poor workmanship?
Yes £10k is a lot but we've a fair amount of wall to line! Think I'll go down the paint on plaster route,seems to makes sense all round.
P
What about hairline cracks? I've seen friends newly plastered houses develop cracks in the first few months, is this poor workmanship?
Yes £10k is a lot but we've a fair amount of wall to line! Think I'll go down the paint on plaster route,seems to makes sense all round.
P
Edited by poocherama on Monday 26th January 16:48
Edited by poocherama on Monday 26th January 16:53
poocherama said:
Hi there,
I've just had a house entirely re plastered/skimmed (we went back to the brickwork) and we'll soon be ready to paint. I'd be grateful for some advice on painting straight onto the new walls vs lining them first? I'll save some £'s by not lining but I more concerned about finish and durability.
Any advice welcome.
P
Pm me for correct instructions to finish in emulsionI've just had a house entirely re plastered/skimmed (we went back to the brickwork) and we'll soon be ready to paint. I'd be grateful for some advice on painting straight onto the new walls vs lining them first? I'll save some £'s by not lining but I more concerned about finish and durability.
Any advice welcome.
P
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