Is there an easy way to improve efficiency of this fire?
Discussion
I am at my mothers place in Scotland and have realised that her open fire barely pumps any heat into the room.
I was wondering if I could just replace the grate or put in something to reduce air flow under the fire, or is it more complicated than that? I realise that open fires are not efficient but the fire in my local pub puts out A LOT more heat into a much bigger area than my mothers does.
I was wondering if I could just replace the grate or put in something to reduce air flow under the fire, or is it more complicated than that? I realise that open fires are not efficient but the fire in my local pub puts out A LOT more heat into a much bigger area than my mothers does.
Some thoughts:
https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=chrome-ins...
but a woodburner is the only way make a real difference, in my experience.
https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=chrome-ins...
but a woodburner is the only way make a real difference, in my experience.
Stating the obvious but different woods give very different heats. There is a wky little song about it somewhere.
ETA: Found it
Beech-wood fires burn bright and clear
If the logs are kept a year;
Store your beech for Christmastide
With new-cut holly laid beside;
Chestnut's only good, they say,
If for years 'tis stored away;
Birch and fir-wood burn too fast
Blaze too bright and do not last;
Flames from larch will shoot up high,
Dangerously the sparks will fly;
But ash-wood green and ash-wood brown
Are fit for a Queen with a golden crown.
Oaken logs, if dry and old,
Keep away the winter's cold;
Poplar gives a bitter smoke,
Fills your eyes and makes you choke;
Elm-wood burns like churchyard mould,
E'en the very flames are cold;
It is by the Irish said;
Hawthorn bakes the sweetest bread,
Apple-wood will scent the room,
Pear-wood smells like flowers in bloom;
But ash-wood wet and ash-wood dry
A King may warm his slippers by.
Anon
ETA: Found it
Beech-wood fires burn bright and clear
If the logs are kept a year;
Store your beech for Christmastide
With new-cut holly laid beside;
Chestnut's only good, they say,
If for years 'tis stored away;
Birch and fir-wood burn too fast
Blaze too bright and do not last;
Flames from larch will shoot up high,
Dangerously the sparks will fly;
But ash-wood green and ash-wood brown
Are fit for a Queen with a golden crown.
Oaken logs, if dry and old,
Keep away the winter's cold;
Poplar gives a bitter smoke,
Fills your eyes and makes you choke;
Elm-wood burns like churchyard mould,
E'en the very flames are cold;
It is by the Irish said;
Hawthorn bakes the sweetest bread,
Apple-wood will scent the room,
Pear-wood smells like flowers in bloom;
But ash-wood wet and ash-wood dry
A King may warm his slippers by.
Anon
Shuvi McTupya said:
Thanks all, I will see if I can locate a cheap burner that will fit in there. What's the deal with the flexible flu liners, do you just shove them up the chimney until they reach the top and attach them to the burner or is there more too it?
You drop them down from above, then fix both ends. But you may not need one - it depends what your chimney's like.Shuvi McTupya said:
Simpo Two said:
On a recent PH thread someone claimed they did it themselves in 20 minutes - so send them a PM and a crate of beer!
There is no way I am clambering about on the roof ! I need to find out if I need an extra chimney liner..I don't know much about this kind of thing!
Flue or not, you'll still need to connect the stove to the chimney with a short length, and make sure it's gas tight and will allow condensates to drain back into the stove rather than into the brickwork.
NB I have no qualifications on stove fitting other than fitting one.
This is a decent site which gives you the facts and some advice:
http://www.stovefittersmanual.co.uk/
If your mum's neighbours can recommend an installer, so much the better. There are some real teeth suckers out there, who will seek to make a real song and dance and a lot of cash out of something which is a damn sight less complex than a modern car exhaust.
I also fitted my own burner (to the regs) two years ago, I'm not dead yet, and there's not a lot to it. Anyone who tells you different should be questioned very carefully!
http://www.stovefittersmanual.co.uk/
If your mum's neighbours can recommend an installer, so much the better. There are some real teeth suckers out there, who will seek to make a real song and dance and a lot of cash out of something which is a damn sight less complex than a modern car exhaust.
I also fitted my own burner (to the regs) two years ago, I'm not dead yet, and there's not a lot to it. Anyone who tells you different should be questioned very carefully!
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