Electrician Charges

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oilydan

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2,030 posts

272 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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I had 20m of earth bonding installed from the box outside to my Aga/Boiler lines, with clamps, plus a socket back-box changed as part of the remedial action for my 10 yearly inspection for insurance.

1 and a half hours labour, 20m of 10mm earth wire, clamps and the back-box as materials.

Is 432 GBP about right for this?

There is some ambiguity as to the quote and items carried out, the quote showed remedial action for a 'split/joined bonding as only one connection in consumer unit' but I was told on the day of the remedial work that this was not actually the case and no work was required on that part.

In short -
Quoted for some worn socket replacements, split/joined bonding and re-inspection.
Actually carried out Aga/Boiler bonding, one socket backbox, inspection.
Charged for original quote items plus additional 70 GBP for 'additional works'

its hot

168 posts

113 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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seems top heavy did you get a cert with the work ?

blade7

11,311 posts

217 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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How much of that £432 was profit ?

oilydan

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2,030 posts

272 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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Yes, for the insurance company risk assessment people.

400+ for running 20m of cable outside the house and clamping it to the oil lines, changing a socket and looking at a socket, and 3 lights that I replaced does seem a little steep.

An hour and a half of work.

PAULJ5555

3,554 posts

177 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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Wow thats a lot, are you paying the electrician or a company who employs electricians.

Friend of a friend, changed a pull switch and light fitting 30mins work I supplied parts. £50

Same guy wired up an extention for me costing £1000 (cheapest quote I could get), less some cable I worked out he was on £200 a day all cash in the back pocket.

Sheepshanks

32,815 posts

120 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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PAULJ5555 said:
Same guy wired up an extention for me costing £1000 (cheapest quote I could get), less some cable I worked out he was on £200 a day all cash in the back pocket.
£200/day is OK, but how long did it take him to wire the extension? Can do a whole house in a few days.

LookAtMyCat

464 posts

109 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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PAULJ5555 said:
I worked out he was on £200 a day all cash in the back pocket.
Very cheap. For a very good sparky you're looking at 3-400 a day, 4-500 for a heating engineer. Obviously this can get reduced if it's cash no invoice.

Ganglandboss

8,308 posts

204 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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From Screwfix

  • 50m 10mm2 earth - £47.50
  • Pack of 20 external earth clamps - £18.79
  • Pack of 10 Twin galvanised backbox - £5.91
So out of that lot, we're talking less than £25 in materials. Let's call it £32 to give us a round number. You're paying £266/hr labour.

The last time somebody received a bumming as brutal as that, they found him face-down in Barrymore's swimming pool!

oilydan

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2,030 posts

272 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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This was a company employing electricians.

I think they have quoted over the top for the split/joined bonding, not really knowing what the remedy would be, then just added the boiler bonding and charged that amount (360) for it.

Then fitted an Aga bonding line which is exactly the same run of cable to the same place, a socket back and charged 70 quid for that part.

Spudler

3,985 posts

197 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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LookAtMyCat said:
Very cheap. For a very good sparky you're looking at 3-400 a day, 4-500 for a heating engineer.
No you're not.


Neil - YVM

1,310 posts

200 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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Spudler said:
LookAtMyCat said:
Very cheap. For a very good sparky you're looking at 3-400 a day, 4-500 for a heating engineer.
No you're not.
Maybe central London, but not elsewhere, even in the pricey South East we don't pay that.

Neil - YVM

1,310 posts

200 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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oilydan said:
Yes, for the insurance company risk assessment people.

400+ for running 20m of cable outside the house and clamping it to the oil lines, changing a socket and looking at a socket, and 3 lights that I replaced does seem a little steep.

An hour and a half of work.
Yes it is steep.

As the work completed was different to that quoted for I would be asking them to check the invoice amount, as they may have made a genuine mistake? (Or they think they can get away it? )

ch427

9,010 posts

234 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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Every area differs but i used to do small jobs like these based on roughly £100 a day. Its easy to say its only 1 hours work etc but sometimes you never know what your faced with until you start the job.

Edited by ch427 on Thursday 30th April 15:01

LookAtMyCat

464 posts

109 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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Spudler said:
No you're not.
Sorry mate, but I'm a heating engineer, I charge that, and i'm currently booked up until the middle of July. I live in the South-West. £40-50 an hour is the norm for a top-level HE, so i'm not sure what you're charging/who you're using.

Spudler

3,985 posts

197 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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LookAtMyCat said:
I live in the South-West. £40-50 an hour is the norm for a top-level HE,
I also live in the south west.
Not arguing/disputing what you charge yourself at but those rates you're quoting are not the norm.

Wozy68

5,392 posts

171 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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LookAtMyCat said:
PAULJ5555 said:
I worked out he was on £200 a day all cash in the back pocket.
Very cheap. For a very good sparky you're looking at 3-400 a day, 4-500 for a heating engineer. Obviously this can get reduced if it's cash no invoice.
What? I employ a lot of sparkys and I've never paid anywhere near that kind of money, even in the smoke charges per day have never been anything like that.

hairyben

8,516 posts

184 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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A lot of the industry offers lower-than-ideal (to ourselves) priced EICR's (electrical inspections) on the basis it wins the work and you can make it up on the remedials.

Don't like it myself and try to avoid but there's only so much you can go against what the whole industry does, especially when it means their apparent charges are "cheaper" than yours to someone who might have no other yardstick to judge you by.

Here's where it gets sticky though and why I hate it- if you're "losing" lets say £40 on every test on what you'd like to charge, and if every other inspection tests fine (no remedials), then you need to "make up" £80 on top of whatever you want to earn on remedial jobs... if it's 1 in 3, or people don't want them done it's evan more...

Industry cuts it's throat basically, yet still manages to come out looking like crooks!

Ganglandboss

8,308 posts

204 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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Wozy68 said:
LookAtMyCat said:
PAULJ5555 said:
I worked out he was on £200 a day all cash in the back pocket.
Very cheap. For a very good sparky you're looking at 3-400 a day, 4-500 for a heating engineer. Obviously this can get reduced if it's cash no invoice.
What? I employ a lot of sparkys and I've never paid anywhere near that kind of money, even in the smoke charges per day have never been anything like that.
On what basis - employee or contractor? What rate would you normally pay? For a contractor's charge out rate, £50/hr is not unusual in my experience.

LookAtMyCat

464 posts

109 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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ha, maybe I know some very expensive electricians then! I'm not paying them that, don't get me wrong (I do all of my own electrics) but I know a couple that charge that.

For HE, especially on boiler/system installs (of which is 90% of my work), that kind of money is the absolute norm. My rate is £50ph. If i'm working for you all day (8-6, I don't take breaks) that's £500. And that's a set labour rate. I have 2 mates who are HE also, and they both charge that. Hell, I know a decorator that charges 200 a day and he's booked up for months. Maybe you're using st tradesmen?

Edited by LookAtMyCat on Thursday 30th April 17:49

oilydan

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272 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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hairyben said:
A lot of the industry offers lower-than-ideal (to ourselves) priced EICR's (electrical inspections) on the basis it wins the work and you can make it up on the remedials.
I was charged about 400 for the inspection.