Home (garage) security

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Freakuk

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3,176 posts

152 months

Monday 21st December 2015
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Afternoon all,

Turns out some little scrote has tried to break into my garage overnight, luckily it's an electric door that rolls up in the frame and I'd put some bolts in there to prevent it opening fully. However it opened a few feet so whoever was intent on getting in clearly had a look around at my bikes etc. So I'm fearing the worst that they could be back knowing the haul they could get if they got past my minimal safety measures.

So I'm looking for how to prevent the garage opening at all, wireless CCTV, alarms (movement/otherwise) and can I get all this to my phone when I'm not at home.

Any suggestions and links most appreciated.

craigsup

282 posts

103 months

Monday 21st December 2015
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Get a cheapish android (one with a decent camera) - I got a used HTC Desire S or something similar for £22.50 from eBay and then a 32/64GB MicroSD card for around £10-15. This will allow you it to record probably up to a month (as it only records when triggered).
Download IPWebcam and then you can monitor that from your wifi network. It starts recording when motion is detected, vibration or sound.


Edited by craigsup on Monday 21st December 13:52

Samcat

472 posts

224 months

Monday 21st December 2015
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I bought a set of these after some scumbags prised open my 'up and over' garage door and relieved me of my mountain bike.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Enfield-Genuine-D613-Gar...

JONSCZ

1,179 posts

238 months

Monday 21st December 2015
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I have used one of these in the past....https://www.machinemart.co.uk/p/stoppa-garage-security-lock/

HiAsAKite

2,358 posts

248 months

Monday 21st December 2015
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Samcat said:
I bought a set of these after some scumbags prised open my 'up and over' garage door and relieved me of my mountain bike.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Enfield-Genuine-D613-Gar...
This.. one in each corner...

CoolHands

18,760 posts

196 months

Monday 21st December 2015
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Since in this case they really might be back, perhaps one of those trip-cord shotgun things that scares the st out of you. Normally you can't realistically use them day to day as likelihood is you'd trip it yourself by mistake eventually, but in this case I think I'd use one.

Especially over Christmas you might be away etc

http://www.henrykrank.com/index.php?main_page=prod...


dci

530 posts

142 months

Monday 21st December 2015
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Pay the money and get a professionally fitted intruder alarm to both house and garage with monitoring via an ARC. Make sure they beef it up with audible alarms on both..

It's very unlikely that any potential thief is going to hang around long enough to get the door fully open when the sirens are going off and police are baring in on the location.

Some hard wired CCTV with motion lights also, if they come back you want a good shot of them. What you don't want is to find out your cheap eBay wireless didn't record for some reason and you have no idea where your bikes are or no idea what they look like.

Get it fitted by a known company too! Not the bloke down the pub who will do the lot for £250. If your bikes and possessions really mean that much to you then the initial investment will be worth it.

velocefica

4,660 posts

109 months

Monday 21st December 2015
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Gingerbread Man

9,171 posts

214 months

Monday 21st December 2015
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Are manual garage doors more secure than electric/ automatic doors on the whole?

Buzz84

1,148 posts

150 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2015
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I have a battery powered alarm in my garage, its cheap and easy to fit as an instant responce to your situation, its pretty loud and always makes me jump when I forget to disarm it.

http://www.easyalarmsdirect.com/store/p1/Wireless_...

Michaelgeeky

29 posts

102 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2015
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I installed this after my car keeped getting egged once a year. I have to say it is so far so good with motion detect function and will send email-alerts attached with pics or vids.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Floureon-Recorder-Security...

Dog Star

16,158 posts

169 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2015
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Some suggestions ....


- have any personnel doors and windows bricked up
- double canopy doors? I keep a car and motorbikes in mine and I take everything out through one door; the other is braced up and welded shut.
- up and over doors? make sure these are braced so that they cannot be "peeled" or bent up. Better still get heavy roller shutters (I can't afford these yet)
- Enfield locks (as above) on ALL FOUR CORNERS of any operning doors.
- additional locks with the shafts going down into the concrete floor
- fitting an alarm - a proper pro job with battery backup - can still be done by anyone half competent. Make sure the control box is armoured and well out of reach
- massive sirens, soundbombs, strobes. Recommend a "master blaster" siren internally - again protected and out of reach so scrotes cannot silence it
- alarm opening sensors on any opening doors
- impact/tremblers on all doors, whether they open or not.
- impact/tremblers on the roof trusses etc if you feel your thieves might be so keen they'll take tiles off to get in
- PIR
- remote keyfob wired into the alarm as a keyswitch; no pissing about with a control panel on exit. This also means that you can configure the alarm with no entry delay - if the door gets disturbed then the alarm goes off. No use having a 15 second delay; in 15 seconds they're in.
- additional control panel back in the house (all above assumes detached garage).
- anything inside anchored down
- consider isolating all sockets so that thieves cannot use your electricity to power your tools to nick your stuff.
- do not store stuff like angle grinders in the garage.

There are other options too involving CCTV, alarm paging etc etc that I'm not going into. One thing to consider is the value of CCTV as a deterrent; it is my view that it doesn't have all that much effect - if you're confident in your physical security I'd much rather have a covert camera that possibly has a better chance of getting a pic of rat boy than if he and his scrotey mates know there's a camera so are masked.

No amount of security is too much; it makes gettting the car / bike out etc a bit more of a faff but even so adds maybe 20 - 30 seconds on.


giger

732 posts

195 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2015
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I am more intrigued how they manage to open your electric door. Yours sounds like a roller shutter. We looked in to both roller and section recently, neither can be forced open due to the way they lock when in the down position (not the ones we looked at at least).

How was it they were able to open yours? If it is an old door can it be modified with new parts to prevent it from being forced open?

An electric garage door should be VERY secure.

Zoon

6,719 posts

122 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2015
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HiAsAKite said:
This.. one in each corner...
Are they not useless if the burglar has one of the standard keys?
Unless I'm assuming they can be used from the inside only.

dino ferrana

791 posts

253 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2015
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Smart water marking on all your gear would be a good idea too with the stickers to go with it. All the bikes, power tools, mowers etc. in ours are marked.

HiAsAKite

2,358 posts

248 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2015
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Zoon said:
Are they not useless if the burglar has one of the standard keys?
Unless I'm assuming they can be used from the inside only.
Fair point. Ours are set to only open from the inside.. (ie no external key hole) - but this is an integral garage rather than standalone

Dog Star

16,158 posts

169 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2015
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Zoon said:
Are they not useless if the burglar has one of the standard keys?
Unless I'm assuming they can be used from the inside only.
The Enfield locks are not a "standard" key; they're a "3D" proper key.