Demolish utilty and rebuild: planning permission ?
Discussion
There is a 1.8 x 4.3 m single story flat roofed utility room stuck on the end of a larger kitchen extension also flat roofed which were both built pre 1999
The utility is only single bricked and starting to slip into small brook which runs down length of outer wall
Can I just demolish the utility and rebuild to current building regs specs ? Or would it need planning permission ?
And if it does and I dont apply for it what is the recourse ?
Thanks for your counsel
The utility is only single bricked and starting to slip into small brook which runs down length of outer wall
Can I just demolish the utility and rebuild to current building regs specs ? Or would it need planning permission ?
And if it does and I dont apply for it what is the recourse ?
Thanks for your counsel
Murph7355 said:
Are you putting it back to the same dimensions and style?
Even if it is it wouldn't necessarily come under Permitted Development. It would certainly need to meet current building regs (assuming it forms part of the house) which could be a real bummer considering it's slipping into a brook 
edit: maybe get away with it if it has en exterior door leading to it?
Nice But Dim said:
And if it does and I dont apply for it what is the recourse ?
Assuming it isn't a listed building and is being rebuilt to the same dimensions and materials I doubt the Council would take any action if it does need permission, and would rely on someone complaining about it to bring it to their attention anyway.If you want to do the right thing check permitted development allowances as you said it is already built onto an extension and there are limits on length and height.
I don't think permitted development would include a rebuild. But it's a fine line isn't it, you wouldn't need permission to replace the roof in most circumstances, or to rebuild a wall, but to do both, maybe?
At the end of the day, planning should be simple and not too expensive. For the investment you're making would it not make sense to get planning and to consider whether a larger or different layout would be better rather than constraining yourself so you don't get 'caught'?
I've no idea, but it's there a risk that your building control officer checks whether you have planning for works that he thinks needs it?
At the end of the day, planning should be simple and not too expensive. For the investment you're making would it not make sense to get planning and to consider whether a larger or different layout would be better rather than constraining yourself so you don't get 'caught'?
I've no idea, but it's there a risk that your building control officer checks whether you have planning for works that he thinks needs it?
JonV8V said:
dickymint said:
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Could even mean having to "dam" the brook to set the concrete!!If it falls within permitted development you won't need planner permission but if it doesn't you will. Building something of the exact same dimensions of what is demolished does not negate the need for planning permission.
As an aside, please actually speak to your local authority rather than taking advice from strangers on a motoring forum. It will possibly save you a lot of hassle at a later date.
As an aside, please actually speak to your local authority rather than taking advice from strangers on a motoring forum. It will possibly save you a lot of hassle at a later date.
RedWhiteMonkey said:
If it falls within permitted development you won't need planner permission but if it doesn't you will. Building something of the exact same dimensions of what is demolished does not negate the need for planning permission.
As an aside, please actually speak to your local authority rather than taking advice from strangers on a motoring forum. It will possibly save you a lot of hassle at a later date.
Planning permission is the easy bit it's Building Control that could 'hurt'.As an aside, please actually speak to your local authority rather than taking advice from strangers on a motoring forum. It will possibly save you a lot of hassle at a later date.
Thank you all for your comments
Both the kitchen and utiliy extension were done under formal palnning permission not a permissabke development pre- 1999
The house has already been expended to its max cf. its original curtilage
I woukd have thought that if the utility was rebuilt to the same plan and footprint then there should in theory be no problem in gaining formal permission for the work. What am I missing ?
(I am not too concernred over the potential of significant deeper foundations due to the brook - which runs dry over the summer months - although 2 m sounds excessive !!)
Both the kitchen and utiliy extension were done under formal palnning permission not a permissabke development pre- 1999
The house has already been expended to its max cf. its original curtilage
I woukd have thought that if the utility was rebuilt to the same plan and footprint then there should in theory be no problem in gaining formal permission for the work. What am I missing ?
(I am not too concernred over the potential of significant deeper foundations due to the brook - which runs dry over the summer months - although 2 m sounds excessive !!)
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