Log burner on outside wall

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R66bby

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Tuesday 20th September 2016
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Hey guys, just wondering of anyone has knocked through there living room wall to make a fireplace or inglenook for a log burner like the design in the picture.
I don't want a fireplace built up in the room as you lose space etc. Does anybody have a rough idea of what the cost would be?
Has anybody had this kind of work done and could share some photos.

Thanks

Mr MXT

7,692 posts

284 months

Tuesday 20th September 2016
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Interesting idea, but surely you'd be reducing the heating effect of the log burner massively?

Tom_C76

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189 months

Tuesday 20th September 2016
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I did one, ceiling of the inglenook is about 1.9m above floor so you get heat from the stovepipe too. Brick stack all the way up with pumice based liners. Ballpark cost of materials was £6k ish plus the stove I think, plus scaffolding and labour. Something like your photo would be cheaper, but not possible where I am as PD rights were removed on the estate and the planning officer refused permission for the steel flue.

Simpo Two

85,573 posts

266 months

Tuesday 20th September 2016
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That's much like my house - the brick chimney breast and stack are external so the interior wall is flat.

It works fine, but make sure you have enough depth for the stove of your choice.


Biker 1

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120 months

Tuesday 20th September 2016
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Make sure you maintain the integrity of the cavity wall & also the damp course: condensation/mould can be very unpleasant. Get someone who knows what he's doing, with some sort of contractual paperwork in place.

R66bby

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Tuesday 20th September 2016
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Cheers for your replies guys. I have plenty of room on the side of the house so can go as deep as i want really.
Internally i would like it to look something like this.


Welshbeef

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199 months

Tuesday 20th September 2016
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You really want the log burner to be "within" the property to get the benefit of rising heat into the walls and rooms above. However if it's just for show and you don't want to decrease the size of the living room then it's a smart option.

R66bby

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Tuesday 20th September 2016
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Welshbeef said:
You really want the log burner to be "within" the property to get the benefit of rising heat into the walls and rooms above. However if it's just for show and you don't want to decrease the size of the living room then it's a smart option.
I was thinking about getting a burner thats a higher rating than the room, so heat will be lost but there hopefully will be plenty coming into the room.

roofer

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212 months

Tuesday 20th September 2016
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R66bby said:
Cheers for your replies guys. I have plenty of room on the side of the house so can go as deep as i want really.
Internally i would like it to look something like this.

Something like that is going to involve some serious calcs and steel.

Edited by roofer on Tuesday 20th September 19:10

Welshbeef

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Tuesday 20th September 2016
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What's the budget OP?

R66bby

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Tuesday 20th September 2016
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Welshbeef said:
What's the budget OP?
No budget yet, just getting ideas. Im going to get some quotes from local brickys etc




Here's another photo of the kind of opening i would like.

Bit of a Unit

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198 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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R66bby said:
Welshbeef said:
You really want the log burner to be "within" the property to get the benefit of rising heat into the walls and rooms above. However if it's just for show and you don't want to decrease the size of the living room then it's a smart option.
I was thinking about getting a burner thats a higher rating than the room, so heat will be lost but there hopefully will be plenty coming into the room.
Be careful with that. You do not need the burner "within" the property structure. The first picture you have posted, if constructed and insulatedproperly will more than compensate for the minimal loss of heat. And it really will be minimal.

If you go over the top with the ratings you will spend all winter sat in your shorts with all the windows open wasting heat.


lost in espace

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208 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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Bit of a Unit said:
If you go over the top with the ratings you will spend all winter sat in your shorts with all the windows open wasting heat.
Don't buy a burner that is more powerful than you need, totally agree! It is more difficult to run a big stove at a low heat than a small stove at max heat.

captainzep

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193 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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We've got a 5kw log burner recessed into the old chimney breast, with the front flush with wall to give space back to the room. Lit it last night, (-it was chilly but mainly to test some oak that I've been seasoning), and the room (maybe 4x8m?) was toasty within half an hour.

Modern stoves are so efficient there's really very little need to over spec.

Our installer fitted a deflecting back plate (in our case just a sheet of steel mounted behind stove but an inch in front of the wall. This will help to kick a fair amount of heat back into the room that might have otherwise be conducted into the back wall.

R66bby

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Wednesday 21st September 2016
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captainzep said:
We've got a 5kw log burner recessed into the old chimney breast, with the front flush with wall to give space back to the room. Lit it last night, (-it was chilly but mainly to test some oak that I've been seasoning), and the room (maybe 4x8m?) was toasty within half an hour.

Modern stoves are so efficient there's really very little need to over spec.

Our installer fitted a deflecting back plate (in our case just a sheet of steel mounted behind stove but an inch in front of the wall. This will help to kick a fair amount of heat back into the room that might have otherwise be conducted into the back wall.
Cheers for the advice.