Have you put your heating on yet?

[B'stard Child]

Trustmeimadoctor said:

So far 1274kWh gas
300kWh electric

Can't see costs as octopus isn't showing the usage

But my usage has been a bit high recently in comparison to the HDD figure as it jumped up quite a bit during the day and it just doesn't react fast enough

Edited by Trustmeimadoctor on Tuesday 30th January 10:07

Have you got internal temp compensation fitted yet?

[Trustmeimadoctor]

Nope! Still no update on lead time

[MrJuice]

have octopus changed their dashboard?

I can no longer see kwh of gas used. it's all m3 now

I am excited to move back home after a refurb. We are going from a very leaky house with poorly laid central heating pipes (I could see my breath in front of me with the heating on 24/7 in some rooms) to a house with new central heating incl UFH, 100mm external insulation, roof insulation and all new windows. I think our gas usage might be very similar to before despite increase in floor space by about 80%

[Trustmeimadoctor]

Website seems to say m3 bug app usage is down and website usage also not 100%

[VTC]

Our heaviest bill over winter just came through
we used 50Kwh/day on electric (no other heat so-urces locally available)
cooking and light included on this Bill.

House has maintained a minimum of 18degrees
heating via electric oil filled radiators 8 in total mainly used from 0700 till midnight
with 2 or 3 left on overnight to prevent the house getting to cold,
and 2 smaller ones in bathrooms for an hour or so in mornings
4 bed three storey build double glazed throughout and built around 14years ago.

This bill was for a 28day period 8th jan up till 6th feb.
the previous monthly bills were around £40-50 PM.

We live abroad so electric does not suffer the huge prices of the UK.
The cost for this month came in at £79PM less than £3 per day.

Weather has turned now, so less requirement for the radiators.

[RoadToad84]

Slightly off topic, but I can't post in the NP&E threads..

E.on are offering 24m fixed rates at 22p/kWh,50p daily standing charge. Somewhat below the latest cap announcement.

[CivicDuties]

RoadToad84 said:

Slightly off topic, but I can't post in the NP&E threads..

E.on are offering 24m fixed rates at 22p/kWh,50p daily standing charge. Somewhat below the latest cap announcement.

On Octpus Agile, I've averaged 15p per kwh over the last year. Standing charge about 40p IIRC. So that E.on offer comes nowhere close for me. Agile has undercut the price cap quite spectacularly in my case. I think I'll be staying on it.

[RoadToad84]

CivicDuties said:

On Octpus Agile, I've averaged 15p per kwh over the last year. Standing charge about 40p IIRC. So that E.on offer comes nowhere close for me. Agile has undercut the price cap quite spectacularly in my case. I think I'll be staying on it.

I've been tempted to go for that, but I am by nature a pessimistic overthinker, and I can see myself getting too worried about price rises at inconvenient times.
I like the security of knowing what my rate will be, and as a pretty low user (400kwh month) it's largely irrelevant anyway.

[CivicDuties]

RoadToad84 said:

CivicDuties said:

On Octpus Agile, I've averaged 15p per kwh over the last year. Standing charge about 40p IIRC. So that E.on offer comes nowhere close for me. Agile has undercut the price cap quite spectacularly in my case. I think I'll be staying on it.

I've been tempted to go for that, but I am by nature a pessimistic overthinker, and I can see myself getting too worried about price rises at inconvenient times.
I like the security of knowing what my rate will be, and as a pretty low user (400kwh month) it's largely irrelevant anyway.

That's fair enough, each to their own. I do have an EV, which I charge overnight, which helps bring down that average cost for me. It's not a heavily used car though, I reckon it accounts for about 40kwh of my weekly electricity usage.

[RenesisEvo]

RoadToad84 said:

CivicDuties said:

On Octpus Agile, I've averaged 15p per kwh over the last year. Standing charge about 40p IIRC. So that E.on offer comes nowhere close for me. Agile has undercut the price cap quite spectacularly in my case. I think I'll be staying on it.

I've been tempted to go for that, but I am by nature a pessimistic overthinker, and I can see myself getting too worried about price rises at inconvenient times.
I like the security of knowing what my rate will be, and as a pretty low user (400kwh month) it's largely irrelevant anyway.

same (Jan/Feb was 400kWh elec each), with this year presenting quite variable income for the household, fixing the bill was key to stop me worrying, especially over the winter period and not knowing where the instability in the Middle East was heading at the time.

It is slightly galling to see the rates go down, but that's the price I pay for being protected from any sudden rises. In reality, the difference isn't all that much money; exit fees means it's got to drop a LOT further to consider a change. I froze at the lowest point before the cap began to rise again in October.

[CivicDuties]

RenesisEvo said:

RoadToad84 said:

CivicDuties said:

On Octpus Agile, I've averaged 15p per kwh over the last year. Standing charge about 40p IIRC. So that E.on offer comes nowhere close for me. Agile has undercut the price cap quite spectacularly in my case. I think I'll be staying on it.

I've been tempted to go for that, but I am by nature a pessimistic overthinker, and I can see myself getting too worried about price rises at inconvenient times.
I like the security of knowing what my rate will be, and as a pretty low user (400kwh month) it's largely irrelevant anyway.

same (Jan/Feb was 400kWh elec each), with this year presenting quite variable income for the household, fixing the bill was key to stop me worrying, especially over the winter period and not knowing where the instability in the Middle East was heading at the time.

It is slightly galling to see the rates go down, but that's the price I pay for being protected from any sudden rises. In reality, the difference isn't all that much money; exit fees means it's got to drop a LOT further to consider a change. I froze at the lowest point before the cap began to rise again in October.

There is no unpredictability for me to being on Agile. I pay a fixed amount by monthly DD, and the amount I pay has proven to be pretty accurate compared to actual billing, in fact I'm probably overpaying a bit, and will almost certainly be able to reduce the DD this year. Only applies to electricity of course, my gas is on a fixed variable rate, which is currently 7p per kwh, which is extremely competitive also.

Each to their own of course.

[RenesisEvo]

CivicDuties said:

There is no unpredictability for me to being on Agile. I pay a fixed amount by monthly DD, and the amount I pay has proven to be pretty accurate compared to actual billing, in fact I'm probably overpaying a bit, and will almost certainly be able to reduce the DD this year. Only applies to electricity of course, my gas is on a fixed variable rate, which is currently 7p per kwh, which is extremely competitive also.

Each to their own of course.

Thanks - it's a tariff I am open to when my fixed rate expires - same as you for gas, 6.8p.The choice will depend on if/when we have a BEV or PHEV on the drive.

[RoadToad84]

The only real benefit I think I'd get from Agile, is heating my hot water overnight/off peak to take advantage of lower rates. Otherwise everything is pretty much on demand - electric heaters (used very sparingly), cooking, and washing.

No solar, no EV, no storage batteries. That may change in the future, but it won't be for a while yet.

Don't know what the midterm outlook is on energy prices, but I'm tempted to fix at 20p/kWh

[CivicDuties]

In my experience the Agile rate only ever goes up to or over the price cap between 16.00-19.00. Other than that, it's usually well below, even through winter. So pretty much anyone who can manage their leccy use in that expensive window will benefit. Here are today's rates, and this is pretty typical:



For some reason the X Axis (time) in the app display is labelled incorrectly - so I hovered over one slot to show the real time and rate applying to that slot.

[Scabutz]

RoadToad84 said:

Don't know what the midterm outlook is on energy prices, but I'm tempted to fix at 20p/kWh

Cornwall Insights predications are it dropping to 20.81 in July and rising to 22.29 in Oct. Fixing now at at 20p looks reasonable as you get the 20p rate now, not even waiting for the drop in April and that should below the cap for the rest of this year at least.

What happens beyond that is anyone's guess.

Whats the gas fix like?

[RoadToad84]

Scabutz said:

Cornwall Insights predications are it dropping to 20.81 in July and rising to 22.29 in Oct. Fixing now at at 20p looks reasonable as you get the 20p rate now, not even waiting for the drop in April and that should below the cap for the rest of this year at least.

What happens beyond that is anyone's guess.

Whats the gas fix like?

I've just gone back to it and they've amended it to 22.41... should've pulled the trigger earlier!

I don't have mains gas so can't see their rate there

[Scabutz]

RoadToad84 said:

I've just gone back to it and they've amended it to 22.41... should've pulled the trigger earlier!

I don't have mains gas so can't see their rate there

That's less enticing. You get a bit of a discount sooner but then for 6 months this year are locked above the cap.

I'm still suspicious of the energy companies offering fixes now. They need to be fairly confident that their fix tracks above what they are seeing on the future costs. In the past when prices were stable there was competiton between suppliers. Now its just them making sure they don't get caught with their pants down and trying to lock people I'm above the predicted cap.

[RoadToad84]

Scabutz said:

That's less enticing. You get a bit of a discount sooner but then for 6 months this year are locked above the cap.

I'm still suspicious of the energy companies offering fixes now. They need to be fairly confident that their fix tracks above what they are seeing on the future costs. In the past when prices were stable there was competiton between suppliers. Now its just them making sure they don't get caught with their pants down and trying to lock people I'm above the predicted cap.

Just read back and realised that the 20p was never an option. I must've made a typo, cos I'm a idiot.

Regardless, I think I'll ride the price cap for a while longer, and consider the Agile tariff some more

[Gazzab]

So it’s coming down by 15%. Can’t wait to have nearly £100 a month saving :-)

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I'm certainly enjoying the switch to the Octopus gas tracker.

Circa 7.2p down massively and currently circa 3.58p.......
under half!

It's making a huge difference as our place has solid walls downstairs, so furiously gobbles gas whilst we're close to 0 or below.

This coupled with Intelligent Go and a slow charging car means our electricity is down, even though we're charging the car. Still have a squeaky bum as they haven't sent us a leccy bill due to "smart meter data issue". Let's hope the data from the charging app and the cheap rates marries when they sort their **** out.