house price/selling question.... opinions welcome

house price/selling question.... opinions welcome

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anonymous-user

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55 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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As long as you are at loggerheads then nothing will change surely.


It looks like your current tactics of handling the whole situation aren't working and aren't likely to any time soon.

So you can either carry on with her holding all the cards or try and force a change by changing your behaviour.

So either start being a complete selfish and start actively fking her over or start the waterworks and pretend it's breaking you and that you just want to go back to the way it was or let her have everything.

Then once things start moving then you can react - at the moment nothing is happening any time soon

AC43

11,504 posts

209 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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FrankAbagnale said:
AC43 said:
FrankAbagnale said:
AC43 said:
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This is the fundamental underlying problem.

Where I live Brexit killed the £2m+ market stone dead.
I think that market was on a downward slope long before brexit. The changes in stamp duty were the real killer. Brexit hasn't helped, but as far as I see didn't change the already downward trend.
I had long conversations about this in 2015 with a property developer mate and the conclusion we reached was that the market was surely at the top of its cycle. We both decided to cash out and I'm really glad I did. I actually completed the week after Brexit so couldn't have been nearer the edge if I'd tried.

Brexit wasn't solely responsible but the effect was sudden and dramatic. There was a long glide path then an abrupt plummet.
Well done on getting out at a good time! I'm not sure what happened in other parts of the country but home counties didn't see an abrupt plummet after brexit - as mentioned above, there was already a falling market and it has just continued in that fashion.
I feel very very lucky. I had the profits of 9 years of buying and selling tied up in that last one.

.....and breathe :-)

mr_spock

3,341 posts

216 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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No, not really. She's given a signal that she'd accept what is, in reality, unrealistic. But it IS a level to work on. In normal circumstances you could negotiate, but do you have the time and energy to do it? Is it worth 100k to you to be done with it? If not, keep trying to either persuade her to see reason, or wait for a higher offer. Do you believe either of those will happen in a time frame acceptable to you? Only you know that.

PS: good luck. Sounds like hell.

BoRED S2upid

19,720 posts

241 months

Saturday 29th October 2016
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W buys H out of the property or can't she do this on her salary?

ClaphamGT3

11,318 posts

244 months

Saturday 29th October 2016
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I feel your pain. I had this with the 1st Mrs C when we separated in 2001. She just couldn't or wouldn't see that 9/11 had kicked the £500k+ SW4 market in the nuts. In the end, for my own sanity, I bought her out for what she thought it was 'worth' and then sat tight for a year until the market came back. It was tough financially but saved my sanity

mjb1

2,556 posts

160 months

Saturday 29th October 2016
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Where were you in these price negotiations (I've read your other posts, so know the 'situation')? I mean you said the agent contacted her to get a response to the 1.7 offer, what were your thoughts, and did you make them known (loudly if necessary)?

I guess the two of you aren't talking well enough (or she isn't rational enough) to agree a price at which you would both accept? Sounds like her price is 2.0 and won't budge, which is obviously unrealistic at the present time, and that isn't likely to get better any time soon.

I know it's difficult, but I'd have gone straight back to the agent with either an acceptance (which maybe you did), or a counter offer of 1.75. See if the seller bites and then put it to W. Puts a bit more pressure on her to go along with it maybe. Worst case is she says no to 1.75, and it doesn't proceed and leaves the buyer a bit miffed. But it's obvious that it's her doing so, and in no way your joint position. Shows her as being the unreasonable one, not only to the estate agents, but also to the courts, when things end up that far.

Muncher

12,219 posts

250 months

Monday 31st October 2016
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I would phone up the buyers and nicely ask them if they would give you some more money smile

austinsmirk

5,597 posts

124 months

Monday 31st October 2016
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the irony being that its never been cheaper than now, to have a mortgage-if we assume most people buying will have one.

Interest rates could well change and at your level, that'll have an impact on those buying at £1.8m by quite a margin.

As a similar tale- I have a friend who built a 4 bed detached house in his garden, leaving the family home spare and then to be sold. wife wouldn't move into it- suddendly they were splitting and its up for sale.

A very good offer of £230K was made. she refused, hunting the money. market slumps- had to be rented out- the main family home sold.

spotted it for sale the other day for £180K.


be it 50K difference in Yorkshire, or £200k (or 400k actually by the sounds of it) in London: same bkss.

feel so sorry for you mate, having followed some of your other posts.

scenario8

6,574 posts

180 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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Sorry to hear of your predicaments, tonker. I hope even if only for the sake of the bairn amicable arrangements can be found.

Best of luck.

Muncher

12,219 posts

250 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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Buy her new ones.

Muncher

12,219 posts

250 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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Is that when you shoot it?

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

55 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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What would happen if you gave up work?

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

55 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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I've often wondered that.

All I can say if my Mrs went mental (ok even more mental) there is no way I would continue doing what I do unless I felt equitably treated.

Sounds like a total mare - just hope it works out with the kid for you.

Bill

52,869 posts

256 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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Does she want them? Or does she just think you can't sell your house with old appliances?

(It won't be long before you can stop saying "yes, dear".)

Muncher

12,219 posts

250 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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Bill said:
(It won't be long before you can stop saying "yes, dear".)
I suspect such niceties are long gone!



Bill

52,869 posts

256 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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Muncher said:
I suspect such niceties are long gone!
Fair point, but the undertone I meant was "yes dear, you're a fricking loony, but I'm trying to keep my sanity..."

elanfan

5,521 posts

228 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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Tonker fellah,

You know that with her afflictions if it's not one thing it'll be another. She is comforted by having somewhere she can hoard her things and the thought of her having to clear everything out is something she cannot face. I think you'd be doing yourself a huge favour by following the path that someone else suggested earlier. Get a court appointed valuation and sale order. She will find more excuses not to sign just when you think you've sorted things. You'll lose your buyer, time will move on, market will recover post Article 50 and you'll eventually get more for it. But that won't help you get away from her and her loony tendencies. If you really want out explore the path mentioned. Really good luck!

Edited by elanfan on Wednesday 2nd November 22:10

ClaphamGT3

11,318 posts

244 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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You just need to keep reminding yourself that it'll all come to an end and when it does it will be win:win - she'll have the money, which is what she cares about and you'll have your life back whic is what you care about.

Ref the boy, you hardly need me or anyone else to tell you that the family court will be much less sanguine about her gaming it with arrangements for the kid than with arrange,nets for the money

FrankAbagnale

1,702 posts

113 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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Contact the agent and let them know you're happy to write them a cheque for £1000 now, dated on the day of completion. That'll buy some nice appliances.

If she's conceded ground on the financials and is hanging to on white goods the deal is there to be done.

monthefish

20,443 posts

232 months

Thursday 3rd November 2016
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FrankAbagnale said:
Contact the agent and let them know you're happy to write them a cheque for £1000 now, dated on the day of completion. That'll buy some nice appliances.

If she's conceded ground on the financials and is hanging to on white goods the deal is there to be done.
^^this.

Too many people in such scenarios let small details cloud the bigger picture.