Heated skirting boards
Discussion
Ilovejapcrap said:
Anyone got pictures of how you connect it put bends on etc ?
http://www.discreteheat.com/thermaskirt/products-a...
If I was building a new house, I would go for wet underfloor heating. We don't use this as work as we are building places for people with disabilities. A heated floor and continence issues are not a great mix, hence thermaskirt works well for us.
I can see thermaskirt as being good in an existing building to replace rads without massive work
I can see thermaskirt as being good in an existing building to replace rads without massive work
The house I'm hopefully getting stuck into soon has a wooden floor with a big space underneath.
We were going to just fill it in and insulate and put rads in. Don't want underfloor as part of it isn't suitable.
This looks perfect but alas I doubt anyone near me would be competent to fit it.
If you want an outsiders opinion, don't touch it with a barge pole. It may be ok on new builds or in a place where or your not bothered with asthetics, but personally I feel its well under developed.
A customer of ours (I make furniture) had it installed and it was a nightmare. I'm pretty sure you cant paint it, the joints on the corners just look a mess and fixing it to the wall (ok it was an old house) was a struggle . The painters struggled to caulk the gaps to the walls because of the heat and rooms with wallpaper (£220 per roll) they couldnt get a good finish where the paper met the skirting. The whole house had been renovated and looked beautiful other than the heated skirting, and it ruined the job.
A customer of ours (I make furniture) had it installed and it was a nightmare. I'm pretty sure you cant paint it, the joints on the corners just look a mess and fixing it to the wall (ok it was an old house) was a struggle . The painters struggled to caulk the gaps to the walls because of the heat and rooms with wallpaper (£220 per roll) they couldnt get a good finish where the paper met the skirting. The whole house had been renovated and looked beautiful other than the heated skirting, and it ruined the job.
Some good points already posted.
Proper design of these systems is key.
Consider the room/are heat loss against the rated output for the size/configuration you want. Make sure that flow/return temps from the heat emitter are suitable & all considerations are accounted for (i.e. should the temps be lowered for whatever reason).
I did a design for a very, very efficient pre-fab building using a ASHP & it could not meet the demand.
Conventional gas-fired heater was OK but again, check those F&R temps.
As for the finish, it's an aluminium profile so relatively robust but an older property with wonky walls will take a bit of aesthetic work. Even than, may not provide the desired result.
Also, really only suitable for longer sections of wall to be cost effective.
On the whole though, a good idea.
Proper design of these systems is key.
Consider the room/are heat loss against the rated output for the size/configuration you want. Make sure that flow/return temps from the heat emitter are suitable & all considerations are accounted for (i.e. should the temps be lowered for whatever reason).
I did a design for a very, very efficient pre-fab building using a ASHP & it could not meet the demand.
Conventional gas-fired heater was OK but again, check those F&R temps.
As for the finish, it's an aluminium profile so relatively robust but an older property with wonky walls will take a bit of aesthetic work. Even than, may not provide the desired result.
Also, really only suitable for longer sections of wall to be cost effective.
On the whole though, a good idea.
Well I did it.
We now have heated skirting in the office, hall, cloakroom and one side of the dining room.
The company supplied matching MDF skirting for the area which aren't heated, so it all matches.
When it's on, it gets warm and the room isn't cold so I guess it's working.
Not quite sure what revelation I was expecting but I guess the fact that you can't tell the difference is success .
Assuming we get through the winter with no buyer's remorse, phase 2 is to do the entire lounge and the other side of the dining room.
The only "disappointing " bit is that there are far more covers and bits than I was expecting but they are all necessary given how it works.
We now have heated skirting in the office, hall, cloakroom and one side of the dining room.
The company supplied matching MDF skirting for the area which aren't heated, so it all matches.
When it's on, it gets warm and the room isn't cold so I guess it's working.
Not quite sure what revelation I was expecting but I guess the fact that you can't tell the difference is success .
Assuming we get through the winter with no buyer's remorse, phase 2 is to do the entire lounge and the other side of the dining room.
The only "disappointing " bit is that there are far more covers and bits than I was expecting but they are all necessary given how it works.
Jazzy Jag said:
Well I did it.....
Did you use the Thermaskirt in the end or another product? Any chance of some pics of the 'far more covers and bits' please, as this could be a deal breaker. We need to revamp our entire downstairs (and upstairs at some point) so I'd like to consider 'hidden' radiators such as the thermaskirt but I'd like to be well hidden. We need to re-plaster (or should that just be 'plaster' as the original 1930 bricks have never seen plaster!) so can hide pipes etc without too much issue at this stage.S6PNJ said:
Jazzy Jag said:
Well I did it.....
Did you use the Thermaskirt in the end or another product? Any chance of some pics of the 'far more covers and bits' please, as this could be a deal breaker. We need to revamp our entire downstairs (and upstairs at some point) so I'd like to consider 'hidden' radiators such as the thermaskirt but I'd like to be well hidden. We need to re-plaster (or should that just be 'plaster' as the original 1930 bricks have never seen plaster!) so can hide pipes etc without too much issue at this stage.They sent a fitter down from Manchester for 2 days to do the job.
I still have some fake skirting to fot to finnish it all off, though. Still a bit of a WIP.
At the end of each run is an end cover where the top and bottom pipe have to be looped together, so there is a cover over the end.
In one place I have piped through a wall so there is a cover over the point where the pipes re-join to heated skirting
Over view in the office
At the end of the run is a cover over the U pipe
I am going to make a removable access cover in case I ever need to get to the valves
You can see the cover over the point where the pipes connect to the heated skirting
at this point the pipes go through the wall and into the dining room
You can see the end cover
Where the pipes connect to the heated skirting in the dining room.
Originally this wall was not heated so I am adding to the heating capacity of the room.
A wider angle of the dining room wall, and it's not as noticeable in the grand scheme
This will be covered by the fitted office furniture going in next month by Hammonds
Edited by Jazzy Jag on Sunday 22 October 21:05
S6PNJ said:
Jazzy Jag said:
lots of stuff with (possible) pics
but sadly the pics are not showing - I can tell you've used Dropbox - but I seem to recollect they changed their sharing method/settings a while ago. Could you give it another shot please?Try it again, I have use Photobicket
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