Decent LED replacements for those teeny bi-pin bulbs
Discussion
https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/LED-Bulbs/Lamp-dimmable...
These are dimmable, however I think you will struggle to find any which aren't larger than the original halogens.
These are dimmable, however I think you will struggle to find any which aren't larger than the original halogens.
Edited by budgie smuggler on Tuesday 10th January 17:10
I'm after the same thing - I have 3 different sorts of 20w Halogen in my kitchen and they're all as unreliable as they come.
I've managed to find several sources of LED bulbs that are more or less the same size as the 20W Halogens, and then some that are similar in size but circular. I've ordered a couple as a trial. However, these bulbs still use the really thin pins to connect with the wiring and I have a feeling that those pins (or what they plug in to) are at least 50% of the problem.
I think I probably need to replace the transformer for one tuned for LEDs, so I've ordered one of those too.
I've also been looking at complete replacement units, where you replace the bulb and the housing together for something that is wired directly into the mains. I don't think there are as many choices here, but that would at least get rid of the dodgy 2-pin connection. I've not ordered any of these yet, so if anyone has any recommendations for this type of LED light - please post.
I've managed to find several sources of LED bulbs that are more or less the same size as the 20W Halogens, and then some that are similar in size but circular. I've ordered a couple as a trial. However, these bulbs still use the really thin pins to connect with the wiring and I have a feeling that those pins (or what they plug in to) are at least 50% of the problem.
I think I probably need to replace the transformer for one tuned for LEDs, so I've ordered one of those too.
I've also been looking at complete replacement units, where you replace the bulb and the housing together for something that is wired directly into the mains. I don't think there are as many choices here, but that would at least get rid of the dodgy 2-pin connection. I've not ordered any of these yet, so if anyone has any recommendations for this type of LED light - please post.
Quite possibly going to draw some criticism but what the hell!
We really like the flying saucer lights but they use the crap halogen G4 capsules.
3 in each fitting x 4. The pin connections are completely useless.
The original 12v transformer is housed in the disk casing on the ceiling, it's circular, made specially to fit in the casing. I replaced all these with the correct LED drivers, they weren't circular and internal modifications were made
I replaced all the lamp holders, the tails of which are all contained within the central spigot. There's little room in there for the 6 tails & connectors but a couple of hours later, on each fitting, they were all back together
I experimented with various LEDs, wattage, intensity and hues.
This all took a great deal of time and effort, but, we like the lights
After a while, the LEDs started to flicker, I checked the rating of the drivers & they were within the limits
I decided to undertake project G9 
No Drivers, 240v and a much improved housing and connection
First I had to cut the perspex discs to house the G9 fittings and then go about stripping out all my previous work
Everything fits perfectly and works without issue, for the first time in several years.
As I said in a previous post, I still have many of the G4 LED lamps and drivers if anyone wants them.
It took a lot of time but I'm pleased with the result.
We really like the flying saucer lights but they use the crap halogen G4 capsules.
3 in each fitting x 4. The pin connections are completely useless.
The original 12v transformer is housed in the disk casing on the ceiling, it's circular, made specially to fit in the casing. I replaced all these with the correct LED drivers, they weren't circular and internal modifications were made
I replaced all the lamp holders, the tails of which are all contained within the central spigot. There's little room in there for the 6 tails & connectors but a couple of hours later, on each fitting, they were all back together
I experimented with various LEDs, wattage, intensity and hues.
This all took a great deal of time and effort, but, we like the lights
After a while, the LEDs started to flicker, I checked the rating of the drivers & they were within the limits
I decided to undertake project G9 No Drivers, 240v and a much improved housing and connectionFirst I had to cut the perspex discs to house the G9 fittings and then go about stripping out all my previous work
Everything fits perfectly and works without issue, for the first time in several years.
As I said in a previous post, I still have many of the G4 LED lamps and drivers if anyone wants them.
It took a lot of time but I'm pleased with the result.
thebraketester said:
I tried to use LED versions of the OPs bulb in my counter top lights, and they would not work. Presumable due to the transformer not detecting load.
Quite likely. Transformers often need to see a reflective load to operate. LED power supplies will give out the secondary voltage regarless of whether anything is connected.Beetnik said:
Alucidnation said:
There aren't any 'decent' replacements.
This.Done everything at home bar the nine G4s - Five in a bathroom downlighter which rarely gets used and four in the kitchen which I switch off assiduously - they burn 80w which, whilst I wouldn't have given a monkey's about at one time, now seems somewhat profligate!
I've tried a few sets of G9 LEDs but they're big, ugly and keep blowing.
Belated thanks for the responses here - especially for the offer of bulbs! Might take you up on that. Delayed reply due to birth of daughter on Tues!
Leaving the chandelier for a mo, I'm first trying to replace the 7 G4 halogen bulbs currently in these downlighters with LEDs
The glass cover pops out to reveal this reflective inner. The connector pins are to the side
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That leaves this void, with clips to attach the reflective inner.
|http://thumbsnap.com/R7eCeAAm[/url][url]
I've found the transformers that take it down to 12v.
Now want I want to is to replaced the whole reflector piece with these LEDs below
Is this possible?? The width of the silver reflectors is 47mm and the LEDs look to be 43mm so just maybe they'll clip in, just about.
But will they light up? These say DC - does it need to be AC?
http://www.lightinthebox.com/10pcs-g4-15led-smd573...
Leaving the chandelier for a mo, I'm first trying to replace the 7 G4 halogen bulbs currently in these downlighters with LEDs
The glass cover pops out to reveal this reflective inner. The connector pins are to the side
[url]That leaves this void, with clips to attach the reflective inner.
|http://thumbsnap.com/R7eCeAAm[/url][url]I've found the transformers that take it down to 12v.
Now want I want to is to replaced the whole reflector piece with these LEDs below
Is this possible?? The width of the silver reflectors is 47mm and the LEDs look to be 43mm so just maybe they'll clip in, just about.
But will they light up? These say DC - does it need to be AC?
http://www.lightinthebox.com/10pcs-g4-15led-smd573...
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