Clever sliding door required

Clever sliding door required

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SonicHedgeHog

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Friday 13th January 2017
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WindyCommon said:
It's a good call, and definitely less destructive that a pocket door. Thinking.......

kambites

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Friday 13th January 2017
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What I did with our en suite was build a cavity into the wall on one side of the doorway and have the door slide into the wall. You'd have to take the wall down to do it though, which would obviously make it a bigger job (I was starting from scratch). Our "pocket" wall is no thicker than a normal stud wall.

ETA: Or how about a bi-fold door? This sort of mechanism:



It'd still fold up against he bath, but it'd be less intrusive.

Edited by kambites on Friday 13th January 14:15

jimmyjimjim

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Friday 13th January 2017
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essayer said:
How much space do you have in the roof? wink
rofl

jimmyjimjim

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Friday 13th January 2017
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SonicHedgeHog said:
essayer said:
How much space do you have in the roof? wink
Loads. Are you thinking of installing a Bat Pole or reroute game the plumbing?
I suspect that, rather than have a pocket door that slides into the stud wall, he means to have one that raises into the roof...

SonicHedgeHog

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Friday 13th January 2017
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Having a door like an up-and-over garage door is stretching my imagination too far.

Just looking at pocket doors. You can get really slim ones. I reckon it might work. I would have to move the plumbing so I have another question. The pipe work would have to run in a channel cut out of a single skin, internal brick wall. Would cutting such a channel weaken a thin wall so much that makes it unwise to do so? The other option is to mount the shower head on the ceiling and run the pipes through the loft.

kambites

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Friday 13th January 2017
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Couldn't a pocket door slide the other way? Into the wall opposite the toilet.

TA14

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Friday 13th January 2017
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kambites said:
ETA: Or how about a bi-fold door? This sort of mechanism:



It'd still fold up against he bath, but it'd be less intrusive.
Or that opening outwards.

SonicHedgeHog

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Friday 13th January 2017
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kambites said:
Couldn't a pocket door slide the other way? Into the wall opposite the toilet.
It's a brick wall, but not a supporting wall so it's possible. I hate saying no, but there is a radiator on that wall and we wanted the pipes to come out of the wall rather than the floor which wouldn't be possible with a pocket door. However, I like the lateral thinking. I'll give it some thought. I'd need to look this evening at whether we could pinch 10cm from the landing at the top of the stairs to fit the door and the pipe work.

SonicHedgeHog

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TA14 said:
kambites said:
ETA: Or how about a bi-fold door? This sort of mechanism:



It'd still fold up against he bath, but it'd be less intrusive.
Or that opening outwards.
That would create a bit of a road block at the top of the stairs.

A thin, maybe glass pocket door could be the answer......looking now.

kambites

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Friday 13th January 2017
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I'm sure somewhere I've seen a bifold door like the one above but with the hinges/pivots in the centre of each half of the door so that when it's open, the door ends up straddling the line of the wall (if that makes sense). In your case that'd mean it stood maybe 10cm proud each side of the wall which might be little enough to avoid problems?

oxford drinker

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Friday 13th January 2017
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Unconventional, but a pair of double doors, each leaf 340mm. One could fold back against the wall, the other against the bath but not so intrusively. Would need a fancy espagnolette locking device...

TA14

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Friday 13th January 2017
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SonicHedgeHog said:
TA14 said:
kambites said:
ETA: Or how about a bi-fold door? This sort of mechanism:



It'd still fold up against he bath, but it'd be less intrusive.
Or that opening outwards.
That would create a bit of a road block at the top of the stairs.

A thin, maybe glass pocket door could be the answer......looking now.
OK, and with your other post in mind I think that you could pursue the pocket door idea and lose the radiator pipes between the top of the skirting board and below the rad with some very careful detailing.

kambites

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Friday 13th January 2017
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How about two little mini pocket doors, one sliding each way. Maybe that way they wont go far enough to get in the way of the pipes. hehe

chasingracecars

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Friday 13th January 2017
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jimmyjimjim said:
rofl
Cut down up and over door, like your garage?? jester

Chester draws

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Friday 13th January 2017
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kambites said:
How about two little mini pocket doors, one sliding each way. Maybe that way they wont go far enough to get in the way of the pipes. hehe
You may jest.... but may not be a bad idea!

http://www.eclisse.co.uk/Products/Double-Pocket/Do...


SonicHedgeHog

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Friday 13th January 2017
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The split door options are not as daft as your smilies suggest. Two sliding pockets would allow the shower and radiator pipe work to remain in place. Perhaps a thin pocket door that has two panels that sit on top of one another inside the pocket? Back to the interweb.....

kambites

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Friday 13th January 2017
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Chester draws said:
kambites said:
How about two little mini pocket doors, one sliding each way. Maybe that way they wont go far enough to get in the way of the pipes. hehe
You may jest.... but may not be a bad idea!

http://www.eclisse.co.uk/Products/Double-Pocket/Do...
Means knocking down and making good two bits of wall rather than one though and the mechanisms are more expensive and more complex (assuming they are synchronised).

Another alternative - would it be possible to swap the door and radiator positions? That way the door could open against the wall.

Edited by kambites on Friday 13th January 15:03

SonicHedgeHog

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http://www.jbkind.com/products/pocket-door-systems...

This company will do a single door, split in two with each half going into a different pocket. It would work. However, it would mean knocking down two walls and moving a light switch and extractor switch. Probably makes more sense to take out the stud wall behind the shower and put a single pocket in there.

Back to my earlier question.....structurally, can you cut a channel for pipe work out of a single brick, brick wall without any problems? If the answer is no the pipes could come through the loft into a ceiling minted shower head.

SonicHedgeHog

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Friday 13th January 2017
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kambites said:
Another alternative - would it be possible to swap the door and radiator positions? That way the door could open against the wall.

Edited by kambites on Friday 13th January 15:03
Like that.....if I'm taking down a wall I can put the door anywhere.......mmmmmm

TA14

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Friday 13th January 2017
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SonicHedgeHog said:
Back to my earlier question.....structurally, can you cut a channel for pipe work out of a single brick, brick wall without any problems? If the answer is no the pipes could come through the loft into a ceiling minted shower head.
Short answer is yes, Top of my head B regs is 1/3 thickness vertically and 1/6th horizontally. If you need to go deeper you'll have to fit in a steel section (which one will take some thinking) and join it to the brick each side. Since you said that the wall is not load bearing it's probably easier to replace it with a stud wall.