Clever sliding door required

Clever sliding door required

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SonicHedgeHog

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2,539 posts

183 months

Friday 13th January 2017
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TA14 said:
Short answer is yes, Top of my head B regs is 1/3 thickness vertically and 1/6th horizontally. If you need to go deeper you'll have to fit in a steel section (which one will take some thinking) and join it to the brick each side. Since you said that the wall is not load bearing it's probably easier to replace it with a stud wall.
Thanks for that. I'm not taking that wall down as there is a fitted wardrobe on the other side. Bathroom fitter coming tonight. Will ask as he'll probably know.

vxsmithers

716 posts

201 months

Friday 13th January 2017
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Are you bothered by cost? Pocket doors are not cheap. I looked into a double door option and it was coming out at over £2.5K fitted, and I didn't have to move any pipework.

I'm sure there are cheaper options on pocket doors, but when you see the price of the mechanism you also need to buy the doors and pay for the labour to knock out the old walls and make good.

They are very nice though - you can get ones that slide 50:50 into the same wall if that helps? just need a thicker pocket (just like an elevator door).

SonicHedgeHog

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Friday 13th January 2017
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To be honest the bathroom is being changed anyway so there is mess and distruction whatever happens. We're not moving and use that room several times a day every day. If there is an expensive option that works I'll pay the extra because otherwise I'll spend the next 15-20 years until the next refit wishing I'd spent the money.

In every job I've ever had done I've quickly forgotten about the cost, but always been niggled by something I tried to save money on or didn't do because it was too much of a faff. What's that phrase? You quickly forget a high price, but always remember a bad job.

kiethton

13,917 posts

181 months

Friday 13th January 2017
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My pocket door system was £160.....

So easy to do that I fitted it myself....

Can see the beginnings of the system (sort of) here:



We were building a complete new wall & layout though!

Used the kit from screwfix

SonicHedgeHog

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Friday 13th January 2017
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Ok, pocket door vetoed. Bathroom fitter says that he has fitted them before and if you don't build a strong enough wall and you lean on the bathroom tiles when the pocket is empty the wall flexes, the grout cracks and you get a leak. We have so little space to play with that I'm going to go with his advice.

So, in the absence of a van door mechanism I'm going to look at a folding door that opens outwards flush to the wall using a Parliament hinge. At least I'm getting somewhere.

kiethton

13,917 posts

181 months

Friday 13th January 2017
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SonicHedgeHog said:
Ok, pocket door vetoed. Bathroom fitter says that he has fitted them before and if you don't build a strong enough wall and you lean on the bathroom tiles when the pocket is empty the wall flexes, the grout cracks and you get a leak. We have so little space to play with that I'm going to go with his advice.

So, in the absence of a van door mechanism I'm going to look at a folding door that opens outwards flush to the wall using a Parliament hinge. At least I'm getting somewhere.
That depends - we lined ours with ply before the plaster/tile board

No issues with flex, yet...

SonicHedgeHog

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Friday 13th January 2017
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You probably had a bit more room than us. Size matters, my friend.

colinjy

98 posts

109 months

Friday 13th January 2017
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Didn't someone do a living door type thing ?

Half the door either side of the frame ?

HotJambalaya

2,026 posts

181 months

Friday 13th January 2017
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Take a look at these guys, they sell all sorts of interesting hinges and door options

https://www.hafele.co.uk

kambites

67,618 posts

222 months

Friday 13th January 2017
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vxsmithers said:
Are you bothered by cost? Pocket doors are not cheap. I looked into a double door option and it was coming out at over £2.5K fitted, and I didn't have to move any pipework.

I'm sure there are cheaper options on pocket doors, but when you see the price of the mechanism you also need to buy the doors and pay for the labour to knock out the old walls and make good.
I made my own. About 80 quid for the track; two 8x4 sheets of 22mm ply and some wooden studs to make the pocket and that's about it. smile

Fore Left

1,422 posts

183 months

Friday 13th January 2017
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You need one of these smile

kiethton

13,917 posts

181 months

Friday 13th January 2017
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SonicHedgeHog said:
You probably had a bit more room than us. Size matters, my friend.
Not quite - 1.85 x 1.60 m

Although no bath - just a shower

uluru

221 posts

109 months

Friday 13th January 2017
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Our bathroom layout is a mirror image. Door opens onto bath but don't find it an issue at all. Seems like a lot of work to solve something that doesn't seem like much of a problem

feef

5,206 posts

184 months

Friday 13th January 2017
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Open inwards on the other side of the doorframe? It should be able to swing almost flat against the wall

defblade

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214 months

Friday 13th January 2017
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Chester draws said:
You may jest.... but may not be a bad idea!

http://www.eclisse.co.uk/Products/Double-Pocket/Do...
Anyone else not able to look at the animation on that page without hearing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9_jPwzRcpY ?

mikeiow

5,396 posts

131 months

Saturday 14th January 2017
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Fore Left said:
You need one of these smile
Genius!! I think https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_XOCDLrfwh8 would make it look far more like a dodgy dungeon room with the visible bars!!
Have to say it does sound like a lot of faff for relatively little gain, but clear you are determined to find a solution....could you add a small sink elsewhere for teeth brushing?! Probably rather old fashioned nowadays.....our bedrooms had them when I grew up!
FWIW, we considered pocket doors for an extension we did 9 years ago....our architect said they didn't save much space because of the wall depth needed, and they were rather prone to operating issues down the line.....so we went with his advice. I'm sure the tech has come on somewhat, but it may boil down to how well it is fitted too, I would think.

Edited by mikeiow on Saturday 14th January 00:11

TA14

12,722 posts

259 months

Saturday 14th January 2017
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defblade said:
Anyone else not able to look at the animation on that page without hearing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9_jPwzRcpY ?
Yes, about to post something similar. The OP should go the whole hog and get the A frame as well.