Mains socket converters
Discussion
My house is somewat under socketed and I have a few places where I've fitted a 1-2 or 2-3 socket converter like this http://www.screwfix.com/p/clipsal-converta-socket-...
I've got a single socket where it would be quite convenient to have 3, so one of these.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-3-Gang-Socket-Converte...
I notice it's fused, does that imply the maximum load I should be putting on a converted socket is still 13A? The place I'm thinking of putting one would have a kettle and toaster running on it which I suspect is considerable more than 13A
I've got a single socket where it would be quite convenient to have 3, so one of these.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-3-Gang-Socket-Converte...
I notice it's fused, does that imply the maximum load I should be putting on a converted socket is still 13A? The place I'm thinking of putting one would have a kettle and toaster running on it which I suspect is considerable more than 13A
finlo said:
Even on a twin socket it's a max of 13A for the two outlets not each.
Wrong,it depends on the protection,a 32a ring circuit could support 2 3kw appliances,in one twin socket ,but not a 3 kw appliance in every socket on the circuit,it is all to do with the protective device ,be it a fuse or a circuit breaker.MX51ROD said:
Wrong,it depends on the protection,a 32a ring circuit could support 2 3kw appliances,in one twin socket ,but not a 3 kw appliance in every socket on the circuit,it is all to do with the protective device ,be it a fuse or a circuit breaker.
I think you'll find your wrong!MX51ROD said:
finlo said:
Even on a twin socket it's a max of 13A for the two outlets not each.
Wrong,it depends on the protection,a 32a ring circuit could support 2 3kw appliances,in one twin socket ,but not a 3 kw appliance in every socket on the circuit,it is all to do with the protective device ,be it a fuse or a circuit breaker.Most sockets are rated at 13A for a double socket, however some cheaper sockets have been known to not even match that I know a few years ago LAP were found lacking in independent testing.
finlo said:
MX51ROD said:
Wrong,it depends on the protection,a 32a ring circuit could support 2 3kw appliances,in one twin socket ,but not a 3 kw appliance in every socket on the circuit,it is all to do with the protective device ,be it a fuse or a circuit breaker.
I think you'll find your wrong!Electrical
Voltage rating:
250V a.c.
Current rating:
13A per socket outlet
(except 3 gang which is 13 amp in total)
https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Technical/DataSheets/...
Edited to highlight incorrect information.
See later posts.
Edited by Paul Drawmer on Sunday 15th January 07:32
Paul Drawmer said:
Here's a section from the MK specification sheet for their sockets:
Electrical
Voltage rating:
250V a.c.
Current rating:
13A per socket outlet
(except 3 gang which is 13 amp in total)
https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Technical/DataSheets/...
YES you can run 13amp from both sides of a twin socket outlet.
No where on that fact sheet does it say that.Electrical
Voltage rating:
250V a.c.
Current rating:
13A per socket outlet
(except 3 gang which is 13 amp in total)
https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Technical/DataSheets/...
YES you can run 13amp from both sides of a twin socket outlet.
People who don't know what they are talking about should refrain from offering dangerous advice on here.
Paul Drawmer said:
finlo said:
MX51ROD said:
Wrong,it depends on the protection,a 32a ring circuit could support 2 3kw appliances,in one twin socket ,but not a 3 kw appliance in every socket on the circuit,it is all to do with the protective device ,be it a fuse or a circuit breaker.
I think you'll find your wrong!Electrical
Voltage rating:
250V a.c.
Current rating:
13A per socket outlet
(except 3 gang which is 13 amp in total)
https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Technical/DataSheets/...
YES you can run 13amp from both sides of a twin socket outlet.
It's a subject that causes lots of arguments on electricians and DIY threads - there's a post somewhere where a guy spoke to MK's engineers and they weren't happy that marketing implied some double sockets could do 13A from each side.
Apparently a double socket it really a single socket with two outlets as there's only a single set of wiring connections. So strictly speaking the comment earlier that its rating is 13A is correct.
The 20A BS thing is based on temperature rise over time. MK say going even slightly over that very quickly causes overheating.
Of course, again as already pointed out, running a kettle and toaster at the same time is absolutely no problem due to the short time they're on. Two 3kW tea urns in constant use would be a different matter.
Apparently a double socket it really a single socket with two outlets as there's only a single set of wiring connections. So strictly speaking the comment earlier that its rating is 13A is correct.
The 20A BS thing is based on temperature rise over time. MK say going even slightly over that very quickly causes overheating.
Of course, again as already pointed out, running a kettle and toaster at the same time is absolutely no problem due to the short time they're on. Two 3kW tea urns in constant use would be a different matter.
Edited by Sheepshanks on Saturday 14th January 21:12
Paul Drawmer said:
Did you look at the the link I posted? Scroll down to the second page , on the left side.
I'm pretty sure that's the one that MK's engineers weren't happy about.ETA: This is the post I was thinking of: http://www.diynot.com/diy/threads/double-sockets-m...
RizzoTheRat said:
I've got a single socket where it would be quite convenient to have 3, so one of these.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-3-Gang-Socket-Converte...
I notice it's fused, does that imply the maximum load I should be putting on a converted socket is still 13A? The place I'm thinking of putting one would have a kettle and toaster running on it which I suspect is considerable more than 13A
The thread got a bit diverted but to answer that question specifically, if the kettle and toaster combined exceed 3000watts then don't put them on at the same time as you'll be over 13A.http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-3-Gang-Socket-Converte...
I notice it's fused, does that imply the maximum load I should be putting on a converted socket is still 13A? The place I'm thinking of putting one would have a kettle and toaster running on it which I suspect is considerable more than 13A
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