Right or wrong? Social housing on new builds
Discussion
The ones down the other end don't cause too much fuss for us. Mostly because we keep well away.
Occasionally had Poles fighting in the street, the odd Police car for a domestic and apparently someone was jumping garden fences. But that's about it in the two years we've been in our new build.
Amused me a bit that they all got garden sheds, which we didn't. Presumably it's extra living space for them.
Occasionally had Poles fighting in the street, the odd Police car for a domestic and apparently someone was jumping garden fences. But that's about it in the two years we've been in our new build.
Amused me a bit that they all got garden sheds, which we didn't. Presumably it's extra living space for them.
Its all because its every body,s human rights to live like pigs if they so choose, I grew up in tied houses in the 50,s but my parents did their best to keep them neat and tidy, they only had the house all the time my dad worked on the farm. My wife grew up in council housing on a small estate and says she remembers the council inspecting the house once or twice a year to make sure you were keeping it respectable and the gardens tidy. Can you imagine the fuss if they did that today.We got a council house when we first had kids and always kept it neat and improved it as best we could under the councils rules.Thanks to Maggie Thatcher we bought our house and are still in it but looking around the rest of the small estate that are not bought I wonder what these useless types that let the house get worse than a pigsty think when they say well its not my house so why should I bother to cut the grass or even clean the place.
I lived with my partner in his 2 bed 8th (top) floor flat in a tower block on West Kensington Estate for four years. Lovely big flat, new kitchen, new bathroom, massive bedrooms, fantastic views over leafy West London towards Westminster and the city. Bought long ago for £62K.
The four years I lived there we didn't invite a single person over to visit, he was embarrassed to invite anyone because it was a council tower block.
We sold it back to the council in 2015 for £495K. That's the problem, you really shouldn't be embarrassed to invite friends to your home that's worth almost half a million pounds.
The parking, the lift lobby, the other tenants. It's not the houses or flats that are the problem, it's the Vicky Pollarrd neighbours.
The four years I lived there we didn't invite a single person over to visit, he was embarrassed to invite anyone because it was a council tower block.
We sold it back to the council in 2015 for £495K. That's the problem, you really shouldn't be embarrassed to invite friends to your home that's worth almost half a million pounds.
The parking, the lift lobby, the other tenants. It's not the houses or flats that are the problem, it's the Vicky Pollarrd neighbours.
CraigyMc said:
iwantagta said:
You can take the person out of the council estate you cant take the council estate out of the person (in every instance).
Hi.As previously mentioned, I grew up on a council estate.
What, precisely, is your problem with me?
It was a glib comment that was expanded upon after this.
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If you havent been raised knowing that throwing fag butts out the front, gobbing, shouting your head off late at night isnt acceptable then moving somewhere nice wont change that.
Plenty of people who come from a council background are brought up well enough to know that it isnt. "
My Mum lived in a BISF council house with her Dad, they then moved into further council houses. He treated every house he had with care and pride.
I have no issues with people from a council estate and im sorry if that wasnt clear.
monkfish1 said:
The solution here is simple. Dont buy a house on a new build.
Plenty of houses for sale not near Sa/HA stuff.
Sure, probably more expensive, but with good reason.
Doesn't matter. With current population increases and future predictions it doesn't matter where you live, you are guranteed to have new builds springing up near you regardless.Plenty of houses for sale not near Sa/HA stuff.
Sure, probably more expensive, but with good reason.
CraigyMc said:
brianashley said:
why would anyone want to live with council/social housing people. if they cannot work etc. they need to live in basic housing away from people who are working hard . Homes should be built for those that can afford them . If the government want to house people , let them build places . good people need clean quiet places to live
I grew up in a council house. My parents still live in it, having bought it from the council years ago.People have to live somewhere, so you really are asking the question:
(A) Do you want "council" to be on private estates, or
(B) Do you want "council" to live in a ghetto.
A is a crap choice, but since it's better than B, I choose A.
Unfortunately so. The problem isn't A, the problem is that when doing A the council have to factor in there will be chav types there and have a strict rules in place/zero tolerance approach/support in place to address any issues with urgency and 'educate' the unfortunate types about what they are doing wrong as often its behaviour passed down a few generations and they don't know better.monkfish1 said:
The solution here is simple. Dont buy a house on a new build.
I tried.On one house the old guy accepted our offer three times and pulled out three times. The estate agent told him they'd had enough and a couple of months later I noticed it was on with a different agent. Still didn't sell it that time.
We needed to buy and builders need to sell. Simple.
Our estates 7 years old and we have a collection of social housing at one end and to be fair everyone in them seems fine. I see them when walking my dog and the houses are tidy and most of them are families with polite young kids.
There was one lad we clocked smoking and selling weed which pissed us off, we thought he was just a small time dealer but his just been sent down for 12 years for being part of a grooming gang who raped a few young girls after giving them booze and weed. At least he's gone but I'd like his mum to bugger off as she racially abused a neighbour who challenged her pot smoking rapist son prior to conviction for smoking weed on her front garden.
On the whole I dont see a problem with it unless the occupants start causing trouble for everyone else. There are SH apartments too and they're just full of old people so zero grief from them.
There was one lad we clocked smoking and selling weed which pissed us off, we thought he was just a small time dealer but his just been sent down for 12 years for being part of a grooming gang who raped a few young girls after giving them booze and weed. At least he's gone but I'd like his mum to bugger off as she racially abused a neighbour who challenged her pot smoking rapist son prior to conviction for smoking weed on her front garden.
On the whole I dont see a problem with it unless the occupants start causing trouble for everyone else. There are SH apartments too and they're just full of old people so zero grief from them.
CraigyMc said:
iwantagta said:
It was a glib comment that was expanded upon after this.
Maybe have some consideration?I could have phrased it better.
People who have no respect for their surroundings won't have their attitude changed by moving to a nice area was, in essence, what i was trying to say.
iwantagta said:
CraigyMc said:
iwantagta said:
It was a glib comment that was expanded upon after this.
Maybe have some consideration?I could have phrased it better.
People who have no respect for their surroundings won't have their attitude changed by moving to a nice area was, in essence, what i was trying to say.
I know I can't get the crap council estate experiences out of my head. I hated it and hated the people who trashed where I lived.
That's never left me which makes me more disappointed nothing seems to have changed with HA rented stock.
I've never lived on a council estate and luckily i have none around my current house...maybe if the field to the side gets built on one day, but I can't see it as there's no gas or sewage.
What I do see of council estates is that they are absoutle scum and no worse than some of the Roma gypsi social housing built in Slovakia etc. You do get some exceptions, but unfortunately it's just that, a few exceptions
What I do see of council estates is that they are absoutle scum and no worse than some of the Roma gypsi social housing built in Slovakia etc. You do get some exceptions, but unfortunately it's just that, a few exceptions
TLandCruiser said:
I've never lived on a council estate and luckily i have none around my current house...maybe if the field to the side gets built on one day, but I can't see it as there's no gas or sewage.
What I do see of council estates is that they are absoutle scum and no worse than some of the Roma gypsi social housing built in Slovakia etc. You do get some exceptions, but unfortunately it's just that, a few exceptions
Exactly . private money should not be forced to house people who cannot afford to live in them.What I do see of council estates is that they are absoutle scum and no worse than some of the Roma gypsi social housing built in Slovakia etc. You do get some exceptions, but unfortunately it's just that, a few exceptions
iwantagta said:
My sister had to move as she got tired with hearing the neighbour shout to get her kids in from the garden (with 2 trampolines in ) "Get the f
k in hear now you little s"Anyway, the social housing on the estate a couple of miles from us is basically down a separate cul-de-sac away from the private houses. It's also built of much cheaper materials so I suppose if you've bought privately on the estate you don't feel like the workshy scumbags are getting the same house as you for free. Personally I think this is the best compromise.
Crumpet said:
iwantagta said:
My sister had to move as she got tired with hearing the neighbour shout to get her kids in from the garden (with 2 trampolines in ) "Get the f
k in hear now you little s"Anyway, the social housing on the estate a couple of miles from us is basically down a separate cul-de-sac away from the private houses. It's also built of much cheaper materials so I suppose if you've bought privately on the estate you don't feel like the workshy scumbags are getting the same house as you for free. Personally I think this is the best compromise.
kurt535 said:
Crumpet said:
iwantagta said:
My sister had to move as she got tired with hearing the neighbour shout to get her kids in from the garden (with 2 trampolines in ) "Get the f
k in hear now you little s"Anyway, the social housing on the estate a couple of miles from us is basically down a separate cul-de-sac away from the private houses. It's also built of much cheaper materials so I suppose if you've bought privately on the estate you don't feel like the workshy scumbags are getting the same house as you for free. Personally I think this is the best compromise.
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