House alarm's....

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Digi_RS

6 posts

102 months

Wednesday 24th May 2017
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I was just coming here to ask a very similar question!
A build on the ops question would be: Are there any really good smart home alarm kits with app (iphone app for me)? I've got a Tado system and love it's ease of use. Something similar in the home alarm market would be fantastic.

Gazzas86

1,709 posts

172 months

Thursday 25th May 2017
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PositronicRay said:
Most kits inc a couple of PIRs and a magnetic switch, is it worth upping the magnetic switches to cover front/back/patio doors? Then using the PIRs to cover say hall and landing?

If access is awkward to 1st floor windows is it worth covering these at all?
If a front door is very secure is it worth having an magnetic switch on this, just covering the more vulnerable back of the house?

I'm thinking these are only a deterrent to casual housebreakers rather than hardened pros, is a box on the wall enough?
We have a magnetic switch on the utility room (side door) and on the front door, only because when ever the door is opened the master panel chimes and lets us know when the door has opened. the bi-fold doors in both the lounge and kitchen are covered by the PIR's in the rooms, and we never really leave the bi-folds unlocked when not in use.

We have no sensors upstairs, mainly because there is no easy access externally to get them, I'm going to expand the system in the future, i'm going to get shock sensors on the back bi-folds, and side door, so if someone tries the handle on the door that is enough to set it off, if anyone is in the back garden / side of house they are up to no good and i would want the alarm going off.

PositronicRay

27,041 posts

184 months

Thursday 25th May 2017
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Gazzas86 said:
PositronicRay said:
Most kits inc a couple of PIRs and a magnetic switch, is it worth upping the magnetic switches to cover front/back/patio doors? Then using the PIRs to cover say hall and landing?

If access is awkward to 1st floor windows is it worth covering these at all?
If a front door is very secure is it worth having an magnetic switch on this, just covering the more vulnerable back of the house?

I'm thinking these are only a deterrent to casual housebreakers rather than hardened pros, is a box on the wall enough?
We have a magnetic switch on the utility room (side door) and on the front door, only because when ever the door is opened the master panel chimes and lets us know when the door has opened. the bi-fold doors in both the lounge and kitchen are covered by the PIR's in the rooms, and we never really leave the bi-folds unlocked when not in use.

We have no sensors upstairs, mainly because there is no easy access externally to get them, I'm going to expand the system in the future, i'm going to get shock sensors on the back bi-folds, and side door, so if someone tries the handle on the door that is enough to set it off, if anyone is in the back garden / side of house they are up to no good and i would want the alarm going off.
Good idea thumbup

I didn't know about shock sensors, mabe a magnetic trigger on the side gate.

Although I'm conscious, that the more complex you make it, the more liable to have false alarms.

paultownsend

2,288 posts

184 months

Thursday 25th May 2017
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You only really need a contact on the front door as it acts as the final exit/entry point.
Our unfortunate experience is that they just go through glass, both windows and the large patio door with a glass cutter or a brick. So it's PIR's in the hall, landing and all rooms downstairs.
Just have the basics covered, making sure windows are locked when not in use etc.

I would look for a system with at least a GSM speech dialler to notify you of an activation. But there's nothing better than being friendly with neighbours.

Also, a basic CCTV system I believe is a good deterrent. The scrot bags don't want to get caught. We live on a new estate with 50 houses. All have standard installed alarms. Only ourselves and another have CCTV. We also have a new alarm system with a NSI installer. We get a few funny looks from the neighbours but I firmly believe ours won't be the first house targeted due to the visual upgrades.

C&C

3,313 posts

222 months

Thursday 25th May 2017
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Visonic Powermax.

Have the above kit, but added internet module, internal sounder, additional PIR sensors and magnetic sensors. Also fire/smoke alarm. The external bell box, went for the option with both battery and mains supply, and additional dummy box with flashing light for the back of the house.

You can get GSM module if worried about phone line being cut etc...


padhinbed

141 posts

151 months

Tuesday 4th July 2017
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Been doing some research of late in to alarms myself. HKC do a wireless or even hybrid system. Remote app, wireless sensors with long battery life and they do a combined shock&contact sensor which suit any doors or windows which are accessible. From speaking to a few installers, HKC are based in Ireland and the philosophy is for the alarm to go off whilst the intruder is trying to get in, not when they've got in (still have PIR's inside). Thought this may help anyone who comes across this thread in the future.

TheAngryDog

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12,409 posts

210 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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Finally getting around to looking at this again..

The Risco kit in the link posted earlier isn't available any more. Any more options?

Harry Flashman

19,369 posts

243 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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anonymous said:
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I had a Risco (see post above), and after an initial issue with the control unit (warranty replacement after a fight with the installer), it worked really well. New owners of the house report no issues (they are down the street and have become friends, so I know).

I have a Texecom now - needed for the size of house as the Risco transmission strength was apparently not good enough for larger homes. The Texecom app is rubbish compared to Risco's app (and indeed Risco's online control functionality), and we are having continual issues with faulty sensors and false alarms.

PositronicRay

27,041 posts

184 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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I've recently fitted a Yale wireless system, works fine, easy setup, extra doodangs easily available.